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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Calluna"]You know what; I'll just post what I wrote earlier. I'll edit this post later. I should just sit down and finish this thing... listed alphabetically: Bad Mood Rising has to be before... - The Citadel (probably), it's assumed we know about Quarkistan already The Citadel has to be before... - The Secret of Dagger Rock, The Wind Jackals of Mozenrath, When Chaos Comes Calling, Vocal Hero, The Lost City of the Sun, The Book of Khartoum, and Two To Tangle because of Mozenrath (WCCC near the beginning if possible? Moze is referred to as "someone new") - Night of the Living Mud, because Aladdin has recently fought mamluks A Clockwork Hero has to be before... - The Flawed Couple, because Mechanikles mentions being thrown off a cliff by Aladdin (maybe The Love Bug instead?) - Armored and Dangerous and While the City Snoozes, because of Dominus Tusk To Cure a Thief has to be before... - A Clockwork Hero, Scare Necessities, the Flawed Couple, and the other Skull and Dagger episodes I can't remember the names of right now (probably), TCaT seems like it's introducing the Skull and Dagger - Scare Necessities, Vocal Hero, and Sneeze the Day because of Amin Do the Rat Thing has to be before... - While the City Snoozes, since Jas doesn't know Fasir in the first one, but does in the second - To Cure a Thief (probably), DtRT seems like it's introducing the Thieves' Guild Dune Quixote has to be before... - Which Way Did She Go?, Jasmine and Sadira are friends Elemental, My Dear Jasmine has to be before... - Shark Treatment, because of Saleen Forget Me Lots (Note: exactly 1 year after AWNW. Jasmine's 17th birthday 1-2 days later...) Fowl Weather has to be before... - Rain of Terror and The Love Bug, because of Thundra The Garden of Evil has to be before... - When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), the reference to a "bittersweet think [Aladdin] doesn't feel right about for days" is probably killing Arbutus (Note: Sultan made his deal with Arbutus exactly 20 years earlier) Genie Hunt has to be before... - The Hunted, because of the Muktaar Getting the Bugs Out has to be before... - My Fair Aladdin, Plunder the Sea, I Never Mechanism I Didn't Like, A Clockwork Hero, The Love Bug, When Chaos Comes Calling, Sneeze the Day, and The Flawed Couple, because of Mechanikles - While the City Snoozes (probably), Mirage mentions Mechanikles (Note: The Flawed Couple should be near the end: Aladdin has defeated Mechanikles many times) Hero with a Thousand Feathers has to be before... - Poor Iago, because Iago gives away a cup from the temple of Amok Mon-Ra Note: Amok ruled Agrabah "thousands" of years ago In the Heat of the Fright has to be before... - Shadow of a Doubt, When Chaos Comes Calling, The Lost Ones, Eye of the Beholder, and While the City Snoozes, because of Mirage (Note: SoaD and WCCC should be closer to the end, since in both it's said that Mirage has tried to destroy Agrabah/Aladdin many times) Lost and Founded has to be before... - Love at First Sprite (probably) : "You're in a vortex! A time vortex! I remember that episode..." (Could also be The Sands of Fate, but only LaF specifically referred to it as a vortex.) Note: Hamed, first ruler of Agrabah The Lost City of the Sun has to be before... - Black Sand and Two to Tangle, because those eps show Moze's skeletal hand - The Return of Malcho, since Aladdin dreams about a mamluk-sprite (See the note for Snowman is an Island) The Lost Ones has to be before... - A Clockwork Hero, because of Waheed Note: Anyone good at judging ages of kids? Because if anyone could figure out how old Al was in the flashback, we could figure out approximately when the ep took place Love at First Sprite has to be before... - The Lost City of the Sun, because of the sprites Mudder's Day has to be before... - The Night of the Living Mud and Sneeze the Day because of the al-Muddi - The Citadel (probably), Mozenrath makes a reference to the al-Muddi - When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), because Aladdin has fought "mud monsters" My Fair Aladdin has to be before... - The Flawed Couple, because Mechanikles has the remains of his centipede robot in his hideout Never Say Nefir has to be before... - Power to the Parrot, because Aladdin knows about Getzistan - Poor Iago (probably) - Iago mentions Getzistan, but then again, he was the one telling Aladdin about it in NSN - The Seven Faces of Genie and Egg-Stra Protection, because everyone already knows Sultan Pasta - Mission Imp-Possible and The Way We War, because of Nefir and the imps - My Fair Aladdin, Aladdin brags about fighting a giant dancing rhinoceros (did he say how long ago? need to watch this one again) - Night of the Living Mud, they mention Aladdin saving Getzistan from something-or-other Opposites Detract has to be before... - When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to Aladdin having fought a dragon Poor Iago has to be before... - Caught by the Tale, The Flawed Couple, Smolder and Wiser (probably), because PI seems to be introducing Akbar The Prophet Motive has to be before... - Do the Rat Thing (probably); Jas doesn't know who Fasir is, but the story seems to presume we know him already. Iago didn't see him, so no prob there. - Caught by the Tale, since a couple of the stories in it were based on the events of this ep - The Sands of Fate, since everyone knows Fasir - Hero With a Thousand Feathers (probably), since Iago seems to recognize Fasir - Eye of the Beholder (probably), it's assumed we already know who Fasir is - Forget Me Lots, Air Feather Friends, Caught By the Tale, Smolder and Wiser, The Seven Faces of Genie, Egg-Stra Protection and all the other Haroud episodes (probably), it seems like TPM is introducing Haroud (Note: TPM should be very early, since it's mentioned that Aladdin's 17, so if it was too late it would make him too young in the first movie) Raiders of the Lost Shark has to be before... - Beast or Famine, because of Murk, the Beast, etc... - When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to giant sharks Rain of Terror has to be before... - The Return of Malcho, because of Malcho The Sands of Fate has to be before... - Riders Redux, because of Zarasto and the Riders of Ramond SandSwitch has to be before... - Dune Quixote, Sadira wants Aladdin at the beginning, gives up at the end Scare Necessities Note: Jasmine's 18th birthday, or spontaneous gift-giving? Maybe late 17th birthday presents? The Secret of Dagger Rock has to be before... - The Hunted, because of the Crystal of Ix Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 1 has to be before... - Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 2. Duh. (Note: The flashback can't have taken place long before the first movie; Aladdin hasn't visibly aged) Seems Like Old Crimes, Part 2 has to be before... - Destiny on Fire, because of Aziz Smolder and Wiser has to be before... - When Chaos Comes Calling, because of the reference to "lava monsters" Snowman is an Island has to be before... - The Return of Malcho, because Aladdin dreams about the doorknocker from the Yeti's castle Note: The Return of Malcho is probably *very* soon after both SiaI and The Lost City of the Sun; if Al is dreaming about both the doorknocker and mamluk-sprites; they're probably still fresh in his mind Some Enchanted Genie must be before... - The Book of Khartoum, it is exactly one year since Genie and Eden met - Two to Tangle, because of a reference to gumdrop and pepperoni pizza The Spice is Right has to be before... - Sea No Evil, As the Netherworld Turns, and The Shadow Knows, because everyone knows Ayam Aghoul Note: This has been bugging me: at the end of TSIR, Ayam is trapped in the necklace, but in all the later eps he comes back from the Netherworld, where Aladdin has supposedly banished him. When did that happen? Are we missing an episode? Stinker Belle has to be before... - Smells Like Trouble, since Brawnie and Uncouthma marry in SB and have a son in SLT. There's probably a *lot* of time, since Bud's so old Strike Up the Sand has to be before... - SandSwitch, Sadira and Aladdin have already met A Sultan Worth His Salt has to be before... - From Hippsodeth, With Love, because of the Galafemmes That Stinking Feeling has to be before... - Snowman is an Island and Stinker Belle, because they're coming back from Odiferus Just a note on that: in none of the Odiferus eps do Al, Genie, Iago, and Abu go there without Carpet or Jasmine, so either they went some other time we don't know about, or Jas had to come back early after Stinker Belle and took Carpet with her - Power to the Parrot, since they have Odiferan cheese at the palace - Stinker Belle and The Way We War, since everyone already knows Uncouthma - When Chaos Comes Calling (probably), because it's mentioned Aladdin has fought plant monsters (unless Jasmine was referring to Arbutus, and I doubt she'd call *him* a monster) The Way We War has to be before... - Smells Like Trouble (probably), since it seems like they're introducing General Gouda in TWWW and we're supposed to know who he is in SLT Web of Fear has to be before... - When Chaos Comes Calling, reference to giant spiders Witch Way Did She Go? Note: Witches of the Sand ruled the 7 Deserts 1000 years ago[/quote]
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Mirage
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:41 am
Post subject: Production Order
According to production order of episodes AND considering how the characters were introduced, event chronology, I think this is the right sequence:
01 - Air Feather Friends
02 - Of Ice and Men
03 - Mudder's Day
04 - Fowl Weather
05 - That Stinking Feeling
06 - Never Say Nefir
07 - The Spice is Right
08 - Elemental My Dear Jasmine
09 - To Cure a Thief
10 - Raiders of the Lost Shark
11 - The Game
12 - Strike Up the Sand
13 - Getting the Bugs Out
14 - Forget Me Lots
15 - The Prophet Motive
16 - My Fair Aladdin
17 - Moonlight Madness
18 - I Never Mechanism I Didn't Like
19 - Much Abu about Something
20 - Do the Rat Thing
21 - Stinker Belle
22 - Sneeze the Day
23 - Beast or Famine
24 - Plunder the Sea
25 - SandSwitch
26 - Web of Fear
27 - Hero With a Thousand Feathers
28 - Rain of Terror
29 - Bad Mood Rising
30 - The Way We War
31 - Some Enchanted Genie
32 - The Vapor Chase
33 - The Day the Bird Stood Still
34 - Power to the Parrot
35 - Smells Like Trouble
36 - Opposites Detract
37 - In the Heat of the Fright
38 - Lost and Founded
39 - Smolder and Wiser
40 - Mission Imp Possible
41 - Snowman is an Island
42 - Garden of Evil
43 - Shark Treatment
44 - Dune Quixote
45 - Scare Necessities
46 - Sea No Evil
47 - The Animal Kingdom
48 - The Seven Faces of Genie
49 - Poor Iago
50 - The Lost Ones
51 - Witch Way Did She Go
52 - A Sultan Worth His Salt
53 - Genie Hunt
54 - Love at First Sprite
55 - The Sands of Fate
56 - The Flawed Couple
57 - Caught by the Tale
58 - Eye of the Beholder
59 - Egg-stra Protection
60 - The Citadel
61 - The Wind Jackals of Mozenrath
62 - A Clockwork Hero
63 - The Secret of Dagger Rock
64 - Heads, You Lose
65 - As the Netherworld Turns
66 - Seems Like Old Crimes - Part 1
67 - Seems Like Old Crimes - Part 2
68 - Shadow of a Doubt
69 - The Love Bug
70 - The Lost City of the Sun
71 - Night of the Living Mud
72 - When Chaos Comes Calling
73 - Armored and Dangerous
74 - Black Sand
75 - From Hippsodeth, With Love
76 - Vocal Hero
77 - The Return of Malcho
78 - Destiny on Fire
79 - The Hunted
80 - Riders Redux
81 - While the City Snoozes
82 - The Ethereal
83 - The Great Rift
84 - The Book of Khartoum
85 - Two to Tangle
86 - The Shadow Knows
Tailikku
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:43 pm
Post subject:
The order I would put it would be much like how the transcripts are ordered on this site, only with Destiny on Fire as being in the final position as it seems like it was initially written to be the finale:
"Air Feather Friends"
"Of Ice and Men"
"Mudder's Day"
"Fowl Weather"
"That Stinking Feeling"
"Never Say Nefir"
"The Spice is Right"
"Elemental, My Dear Jasmine"
"To Cure a Thief"
"Raiders of the Lost Shark"
"The Game"
"Strike Up the Sand"
"Getting the Bugs Out"
"Forget Me Lots"
"The Prophet Motive"
"My Fair Aladdin"
"Moonlight Madness"
"I Never Mechanism I Didn't Like"
"Much Abu About Something"
"Do the Rat Thing"
"Stinker Belle"
"Sneeze the Day"
"Beast or Famine"
"Plunder the Sea"
"Sand Switch"
"Web of Fear"
"Hero with a Thousand Feathers"
"Rain of Terror"
"Bad Mood Rising"
"The Way We War"
"Some Enchanted Genie"
"The Vapor Chase"
"The Day the Bird Stood Still"
"Power to the Parrot"
"Smells Like Trouble"
"Opposites Detract"
"In the Heat of the Fright"
"Lost and Founded"
"Smolder and Wiser"
"Garden of Evil"
"Mission: Imp Possible"
"Snowman is an Island"
"Shark Treatment"
"Dune Quixote"
"Scare Necessities"
"Sea No Evil"
"The Animal Kingdom"
"The Seven Faces of Genie"
"Poor Iago"
"The Lost Ones"
"Witch Way Did She Go?"
"A Sultan Worth His Salt"
"Genie Hunt"
"Love at First Sprite"
"The Sands of Fate"
"The Flawed Couple"
"Caught by the Tale"
"Eye of the Beholder"
"Egg-stra Protection"
"The Citadel"
"The Wind Jackals of Mozenrath"
"A Clockwork Hero"
"The Secret of Dagger Rock"
"Heads, You Lose"
"As the Netherworld Turns"
"Seems Like Old Crimes two-parter"
"Shadow of a Doubt"
"The Love Bug"
"The Lost City of the Sun"
"Night of the Living Mud"
"When Chaos Comes Calling"
"Armored and Dangerous"
"Black Sand"
"From Hippsodeth, with Love"
"Vocal Hero"
"The Return of Malcho"
"The Hunted"
"Riders Redux"
"While the City Snoozes"
"The Ethereal"
"The Great Rift"
"The Book of Khartoum"
"Two to Tangle"
"The Shadow Knows"
"Destiny on Fire"
Booncy
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:14 pm
Post subject:
Amadou wrote:
I propose the order from my point of view. It is far from being perfect, but I've tried to take into account all of aforesaid remarks.
1. That Stinking Feeling
2. The Prophet Motive
3. Stinkerbelle
4. Air Feather Friends
5. Bad Mood Rising
6. Do The Rat Thing
7. To Cure A Thief
8. Never Say Nefir
9. Getting The Bugs Out
10. The Vapor Chase
11. Garden Of Evil
12. Much Abu About Something
13. My Fair Aladdin
14. Raiders Of The Lost Shark
15. Web Of Fear
16. Mudder’s Day
17. Strike Up The Sand
18. Plunder The Sea
19. Fowl Weather
20. I Never Mechanism I Didn’t Like
21. SandSwitch
22. Sneeze The Day
23. Lost And Founded
24. Moonlight Madness
25. The Lost Ones
26. Rain Of Terror
27. A Clockwork Hero
28. Forget Me Lots
29. Scare Necessities
30. Dune Quixote
31. The Day The Bird Stood Still
32. Hero With A Thousand Feathers
33. Of Ice And Men
34. Poor Iago
35. Opposites Detract
36. Caught By The Tale
37. Elemental, My Dear Jasmine
38. Beast Or Famine
39. Smolder And Wiser
40. The Citadel
41. The Game
42. The Animal Kingdom
43. Power To The Parrot
44. The Spice Is Right
45. The Sands Of Fate
46. The Secret Of Dagger Rock
47. In The Heat Of The Fright
48. The Seven Faces Of Genie
49. The Wind Jackal Of Mozenrath
50. The Love Bug
51. Some Enchanted Genie
52. Mission: Imp Possible
53. Witch Way Did She Go?
54. Shadow Of A Doubt
55. The Way We War
56. Night Of The Living Mud
57. Egg-stra Protection
58. Sea No Evil
59. Heads, You Lose
60. The Flawed Couple
61. When Chaos Comes Calling
62. Armored And Dangerous
63. Shark Treatment
64. A Sultan Worth His Salt
65. Love At First Sprite
66. Vocal Hero
67. As The Netherworld Turns
68. Genie Hunt
69. Seems Like Old Crimes (1)
70. Seems Like Old Crimes (2)
71. Snowman Is An Island
72. The Lost City Of The Sun
73. From Hippsodeth, With Love
74. Black Sand
75. Destiny On Fire
76. The Return Of Malcho
77. Eye Of The Beholder
78. The Hunted
79. Riders Redux
80. The Book Of Khartoum
81. While The City Snoozes
82. Two To Tangle
83. Smells Like Trouble
84. The Shadow Knows
85. The Ethereal
86. The Great Rift
What do you think?..
"The Lost Ones" can't be before "In The Heat Of The Fright" because "In The Heat Of The Fright" is Mirage's debut episode.
Also I'd personally put "The Ethereal" as the last episode IMO.
Calluna
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:16 pm
Post subject:
Not seeing any problems at first glance. Been working on the Prince Bud Problem, I see.
Amadou
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:07 pm
Post subject:
I propose the order from my point of view. It is far from being perfect, but I've tried to take into account all of aforesaid remarks.
1. That Stinking Feeling
2. The Prophet Motive
3. Stinkerbelle
4. Air Feather Friends
5. Bad Mood Rising
6. Do The Rat Thing
7. To Cure A Thief
8. Never Say Nefir
9. Getting The Bugs Out
10. The Vapor Chase
11. Garden Of Evil
12. Much Abu About Something
13. My Fair Aladdin
14. Raiders Of The Lost Shark
15. Web Of Fear
16. Mudder’s Day
17. Strike Up The Sand
18. Plunder The Sea
19. Fowl Weather
20. I Never Mechanism I Didn’t Like
21. SandSwitch
22. Sneeze The Day
23. Lost And Founded
24. Moonlight Madness
25. The Lost Ones
26. Rain Of Terror
27. A Clockwork Hero
28. Forget Me Lots
29. Scare Necessities
30. Dune Quixote
31. The Day The Bird Stood Still
32. Hero With A Thousand Feathers
33. Of Ice And Men
34. Poor Iago
35. Opposites Detract
36. Caught By The Tale
37. Elemental, My Dear Jasmine
38. Beast Or Famine
39. Smolder And Wiser
40. The Citadel
41. The Game
42. The Animal Kingdom
43. Power To The Parrot
44. The Spice Is Right
45. The Sands Of Fate
46. The Secret Of Dagger Rock
47. In The Heat Of The Fright
48. The Seven Faces Of Genie
49. The Wind Jackal Of Mozenrath
50. The Love Bug
51. Some Enchanted Genie
52. Mission: Imp Possible
53. Witch Way Did She Go?
54. Shadow Of A Doubt
55. The Way We War
56. Night Of The Living Mud
57. Egg-stra Protection
58. Sea No Evil
59. Heads, You Lose
60. The Flawed Couple
61. When Chaos Comes Calling
62. Armored And Dangerous
63. Shark Treatment
64. A Sultan Worth His Salt
65. Love At First Sprite
66. Vocal Hero
67. As The Netherworld Turns
68. Genie Hunt
69. Seems Like Old Crimes (1)
70. Seems Like Old Crimes (2)
71. Snowman Is An Island
72. The Lost City Of The Sun
73. From Hippsodeth, With Love
74. Black Sand
75. Destiny On Fire
76. The Return Of Malcho
77. Eye Of The Beholder
78. The Hunted
79. Riders Redux
80. The Book Of Khartoum
81. While The City Snoozes
82. Two To Tangle
83. Smells Like Trouble
84. The Shadow Knows
85. The Ethereal
86. The Great Rift
What do you think?..
Salukfan
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:39 am
Post subject:
Quote:
Maybe it was not Agrabah, but some other city in it's place that had been ruined? Or it's just another author's oversight? Or I want too much...
Well, he did call the city Agrabah, and unless Amok is in some trapped dimmension where he knows what is happening outside, I doubt he'd know that.
Edit: On second thought, there may have been an Old Agrabah (built by Hamed) and a New Agrabah sometime later on. Old Agrabah was destroyed in the time Amok has trapped, but the newer one was built in its place before Amok awoke again.
Syera
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:22 am
Post subject:
Quote:
How comes that Agrabah is so ancient and still not developped enough?
I dunno. I'd suggest reading up on real cities like Jerusalem and Baghdad during the middle ages for more information on this.
Amadou
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:41 am
Post subject:
Salukfan wrote:
2. Amok Mon Ra- Mentions ruling Agrabah "thousands of years ago"
3. The Witches of the Sand- as is already stated, a thousand years ago.
How comes that Agrabah is so ancient and still not developped enough?
Maybe it was not Agrabah, but some other city in it's place that had been ruined? Or it's just another author's oversight? Or I want too much...
Hourglass
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:31 pm
Post subject:
Quote:
Psssst... similar charges repel
Umm... yeah... but if they're similar charges, it's like the same magics... which would simulate two magics repelling... which is what I was getting at.
It's not a big deal, forget I said anything.
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:44 am
Post subject:
That crystal is confusing. For example, why didn't the big crystal hunt out Mozenrath, Xerxes and carpet as well as Genie?
-Xerxes was able to go into the little one because it sought him out. He was in the bigger one, but because he was pulled in.
-Carpet wasn't even affected, but he is still a magical flying thing like Xerxes. Maybe it has to do with magic types and strengths?
-Mozenrath was able to go, but only after Jasmine picked him up and put him in the range of the light. I guess because he was the one who created the crystal and said the magic word it didn't seek him out, but I think it should have.
Does the size of the crystal determine the power it can hold or something?
And if Genie didn't want to finish saying the phrase because it would "invite his doom" or activate the crystal, why didn't someone just say "ixtabor" to stop it? Can only magic type folk say it?
Jas
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:11 am
Post subject:
Tar wrote:
Saying the full name seems to invoke the thing.
...perhaps you just invoked it by saying it!
Oh nooooooo! (runs away and hides)
Tar
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:09 am
Post subject:
Saying the full name seems to invoke the thing.
...perhaps you just invoked it by saying it!
Marisa
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:27 pm
Post subject:
Calluna wrote:
Marisa wrote:
When you're combining magic for a sole purpose, as Mozenrath does (and the Shaman did), then they run their own course without interacting with the other magical energies.
I always thought of the Crystal of Ix as sort of a magic converter, which is how I explained Mozenrath being able to use Genie's magic. The Shaman's staff could work the same way. Maybe they're made of similar material?
That could be it, too.
On a random note, why do we call it the Crystal of Ix? It's called the Crystal of Ixtala, isn't it? Recall the scene from SoDR:
Genie:
Gah! The Crystal of Ix-- (he cuts himself off) Ooh, even to say it out loud would invite my doom!
Mozenrath:
Allow me. IXTALA!
Then again, they do refer to it as the Crystal of Ix in most episodes afterward.
xfkirsten
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:34 pm
Post subject:
Hourglass wrote:
Quote:
it's like trying to force two north poles of a magnet together. They just clash.
Actually if you are trying to get two north poles to work together... it's like having to magics work together... not to pick...
too much
Psssst...
similar charges repel
Calluna
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:32 pm
Post subject:
Marisa wrote:
When you're combining magic for a sole purpose, as Mozenrath does (and the Shaman did), then they run their own course without interacting with the other magical energies.
I always thought of the Crystal of Ix as sort of a magic converter, which is how I explained Mozenrath being able to use Genie's magic. The Shaman's staff could work the same way. Maybe they're made of similar material?
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