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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Nez"][quote="Hourglass"]Alright, that's a good analogy actually Nez. Frollo and Esmerelda, it gives a good view on it.[/quote] Thanks.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Emmlei</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:40 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Yeah, I think it's more plausible to have them fling intelligent insults, usually of the descriptive kind, than to use a curse word. I really don't see them cursing for the sake of cursing, either. <br /> <br />As for sexual references, I don't mind it in the appropriate ratings. Unfortunately, I'm usually not in the mood to read that kind of fanfiction. My brain just does not see the characters in that sort of context without a really good lead-up. As for more general ratings (like PG or PG-13), I like the little bits of flirting and innuendo because it gets in every now and then in actual films and episodes, which can give the story more appeal. But don't overdo it! It's a very thin line between what is tasteful and fun, and what is just overkill and inappropriate.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:20 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dazzeling diamond wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">yeah, when there is a rating for the content, people shouldn't complain about sexual references/scenes, or swearing, or whatever, u know?</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sometimes, though, we'd like to be able to find more fanfiction without it. <br /> <br />On the subject of swearing (as we know it), I don't think it has much of a place in Aladdin fanfiction. Not so much because I'm against swearing (although admittedly, I'm no fan of it...) as much as the fact that it's out of place for the culture, not to mention out of character. Although the <span style="font-style: italic">Aladdin</span> continuity has a long history of anachronisms, <span style="font-style: italic">most</span> of these are limited to Genie and Iago. Out of these two, I just don't see Genie as the swearing type. Iago, maybe... but given we've never seen him do it, I think it'd still sound a little odd. <br /> <br />I could believe Aladdin calling someone a "son of a bitch." It would be a plausible enough insult for the culture - and he's already called someone a "two-faced son of a jackal." <br /> <br />Overall, if other characters were going to start swearing, I think it'd be more believable for them to launch into intelligent insults (or stupid ones, depending on the character) than to blast off a barrage of the swear words our culture is familiar with.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dazzeling diamond</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">yeah, when there is a rating for the content, people shouldn't complain about sexual references/scenes, or swearing, or whatever, u know?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AlJasLover</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><span style="color: violet">I don't think there is any problem with sexual references in fanfics... it is <span style="font-style: italic">your</span> story isn't it?? And writers are 99% of the time good at warning readers about those types of things (with ratings like M or whatever), am I right?</span></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Iago</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Iago-Do we have to go over this? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Have you <span style="font-style: italic">seen</span> his DVD? <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />/shamelessly promoting gilberts dvd <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Calluna wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> I can't imagine Genie swearing a lot just because he doesn't get angry much, but I'll bet he tells a lot of dirty jokes. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Oh, absolutely. He cut it close a few times in the series <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:41 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I pretty much agree with you all on that point; Aladdin is a G-rated show about non-G-rated people. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> Aladdin and Iago even swear in canon in a bowdlerized sort of way ("son of a jackal!" "what the- I mean, awk!"). Abu would have such a potty mouth if he could speak properly. I can't imagine Genie swearing a lot just because he doesn't get angry much, but I'll bet he tells a lot of dirty jokes. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />If it's correctly rated, isn't for shock value or because people are writing the characters in their (the authors') voices I have no problem with it. <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>PrincessHikaru wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">So, what's your take? In the Aladdin fanfiction I've read, I haven't seen cussing, but I have seen it when people roleplay as certain characters on a website, or whatever. I realize that's different, though.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> Personally with just the gang.... <br /> <br />Aladdin-He is going to cuss. You can see he wanted to in the movie, but Disney wouldn't let him <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. The ocassional "What the hell?!" or "Dammit!", but I can't really see him dropping the f-bomb <span style="font-style: italic">that</span> often. Not that he won't--just that he wouldn't say it or any other big ones all the time or in every sentence, especially around Jasmine out of respect. I can see her having to do an "Aladdin!" if he was getting carried away. She has him on check <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br />Now if he was around just Genie and Iago and it's just a guy thing, that might change <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. But it depends on the situation. <br /> <br />Iago-Do we have to go over this? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Genie-<img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> I think he's a social cusser. It depends on where he's at and who he's with. If it's with Iago, Abu, and Carpet in a room playing a game of poker late at night or something, yeah. If it's out shopping with Aladdin and Jasmine, maybe a little if even. I don't think he feels there's really a need to. He talks to certain people differently, so I think that would influence his cussing. <br /> <br />Jasmine-The first few years around everyone, no not really. Maybe a little, but I'm still not sure on that. I mean, yeah there's the whole delicate raised princess thing, but Jasmine isn't your ordinary princess and I'm not sure how she was raised. Maybe she'd cuss to herself or when she was super pissed off, she would say one or two, which would prompt the sultan to have a fit <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. <br />But after a while, she might let out the ocassional "Aladdin...what the hell are you doing?" <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> I think if she did cuss, it would be by influence. <br /> <br />But overall, I have no problem with it as long as it's not obsessive and sounds like it was thrown in there for the sake of "omgz, jazmin cussed!!11 hehehehehe". It has to be believable even in a rated R or NC-17 fic.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hourglass</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>PrincessHikaru wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I thought this question would be appropriate here... <br />How do y'all feel about cussing in fanfiction? I mean, it wasn't in the TV series or movies, but in real life, people do cuss. Maybe not everybody, but enough people do. <br /> <br />I don't think the Aladdin characters would go without cussing, especially given Iago's mouthiness, Aladdin grew up on the streets, and most of the villains aren't exactly Emily Post. But what I do hate is when people go overboard with the cussing. For example, I can picture some of the characters saying the D-word, but not too many of them using the F-word. And for some reason, in all honesty, I can't see Aladdin going all sailor-talk with the four-lettered words, if he even cusses at all. <br /> <br />So, what's your take? In the Aladdin fanfiction I've read, I haven't seen cussing, but I have seen it when people roleplay as certain characters on a website, or whatever. I realize that's different, though. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Mild cussing is appropriate in fanfiction. No matter what rating. Here's the thing... it also depends on the rating for what words are in there. <br /> <br />The F word/D word would be allowed. And is expected to be seen in R rated fanfics. However, again, going overboard, would not be a good idea. <br /> <br />No one reads the mature fanfics for the cussing. They read it to see their favorite characters in a grown up fashion and situation. Take me, for example, I love to read Aladdin fanfiction that is "M" in fashion. However, if I read a bunch of cussing... yeah... that would definitely turn me off. <br /> <br />Keep it to a minimum, and ONLY to the characters that you could imagine using those words. <br /> <br />I.E. Not Jasmine or Genie... but maybe Aladdin... and definitely Rasoul.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dazzeling diamond</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">hmmm, interesting u should point this out...i have used the b-words, s-word and another word, but i felt it was appropriate in context...but in my whle life of fanficiton i have used like, 5? <br /> <br />I think it is fine if the rating and context is appropriate, u don't have them being all immature and cussing randomly...in fact i can't stand when people do that (i haven't seen any in aladdin fanfiction) <br /> <br />Hmmmm, I have to say, thought I have nothing against it when it is right and used ummmm, properly?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:37 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I thought this question would be appropriate here... <br />How do y'all feel about cussing in fanfiction? I mean, it wasn't in the TV series or movies, but in real life, people do cuss. Maybe not everybody, but enough people do. <br /> <br />I don't think the Aladdin characters would go without cussing, especially given Iago's mouthiness, Aladdin grew up on the streets, and most of the villains aren't exactly Emily Post. But what I do hate is when people go overboard with the cussing. For example, I can picture some of the characters saying the D-word, but not too many of them using the F-word. And for some reason, in all honesty, I can't see Aladdin going all sailor-talk with the four-lettered words, if he even cusses at all. <br /> <br />So, what's your take? In the Aladdin fanfiction I've read, I haven't seen cussing, but I have seen it when people roleplay as certain characters on a website, or whatever. I realize that's different, though. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It answers that "boxers or briefs" question anyone was wondering, although I think we've seen some of them wearing both <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Nez</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Calluna wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>persian85033 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Well, Saluk undressed the guards in KoT. I actually thought, 'is he gay or something?'</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">I'm probably the biggest fan of Hakim and Fazal in the whole world, and that was a lot more than even I ever wanted to see of them. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />And they're wearing tighty-whiteys. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>persian85033 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Well, Saluk undressed the guards in KoT. I actually thought, 'is he gay or something?'</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody">I'm probably the biggest fan of Hakim and Fazal in the whole world, and that was a lot more than even I ever wanted to see of them. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> It's just a classic cartoon element</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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