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Calluna |
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Also, like it says, he does break the rules sometimes; it's not like killing someone or one of those rules where he physically can't do it. |
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AladdinsGenie |
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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That picnic is just like the sundae with the exception that he made it for him AND Abu. I don't know if he HAS to eat, but things like a picnic and a sundae could be considered more like treats. I guess it doesn't count as long as someone else benefits from it. It's not something you can keep forever.
As for the girls, it's not like they are still around and he made them for himself...I think It was just a part of his introduction and Aladdin benefited from it |
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iamstillhiro1112 |
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Genie did make the picnic for himself, and Abu in Return of Jafar. Not to mention creating female dancers just for his musical in the Cave of Wonders. |
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AladdinsGenie |
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but it never says that he can't use his magic for selfish reasons... just said no big treasures. |
His life is service to others, not himself. Therefore, he can't use his magic for himself which is considered selfish. Materializing himself a sundae goes against that rule of service to others even if it is something edible and will be gone in 5 minutes. It's still an object. Although there is really not a need for genies to have material objects since they are slaves. He has no real personal material objects himself except his lamp and apparently a lot of books *hides DVD feature* |
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Genie: Ahem! Remember the Code [of the Genie]! The Code clearly states, no big treasures.
Iago: Then what is the point?!
Genie: The point of a genie's life is service to others. And the union is very vigilent.
Iago: Oh, yeah, like you never materialize yourself a 12-pound hot fudge sundae.
Genie: Shh! Do you want everyone to know? |
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Yeah, but it never says that he can't use his magic for selfish reasons... just said no big treasures. |
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AladdinsGenie |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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He set the sorcerer he was traded to for eternal life by Al Gebraic on fire, and was sent to the Cave of Wonders for assault charges |
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Calluna |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Or he's been in trouble before? |
That's my theory. He was in the Cave of Wonders as punishment. |
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AladdinsGenie |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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It was a harmless sundae! I'm gonna have to sit here and write all the Genie Code rules...
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On that subject, Genie seems a lot more strict about the genie rules than Jafar or even Eden. |
Maybe because he's been a genie longer? Or he's been in trouble before?
But I wonder if that has anything to do with general genie/human relationships in the sense that most genies were mischievious and tricked their masters despite being bound to the lamp and the rules of the genie. As long as they got their wishes was the only main thing they couldn't disobey.
I think if they had Genie trick Jafar, there'd be no point for Aladdin to trick him at the end and show everyone that he was in fact listening to Genie when he was talking about what it's like to be a genie, and that simply being his clever street rat self was going to get him out of that situation.
That, and I really just don't think at that point he would have came up with that idea |
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Calluna |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hourglass wrote: |
When did he say that he couldn't use his magic for selfish reasons? |
"Power to the Parrot". (breaks out the video file)
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Genie: Ahem! Remember the Code [of the Genie]! The Code clearly states, no big treasures.
Iago: Then what is the point?!
Genie: The point of a genie's life is service to others. And the union is very vigilent.
Iago: Oh, yeah, like you never materialize yourself a 12-pound hot fudge sundae.
Genie: Shh! Do you want everyone to know? |
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Hourglass |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Calluna wrote: |
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Have we ever seen him do anything immoral of his own free will? I don't believe we have. |
Nothing big like that. Just little things, like hurting Iago, lying, etc. And he uses his magic for selfish reasons, which is technically against the Code of the Genie (even if it doesn't seem to be enforced much...). |
When did he say that he couldn't use his magic for selfish reasons? |
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Calluna |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Have we ever seen him do anything immoral of his own free will? I don't believe we have. |
Nothing big like that. Just little things, like hurting Iago, lying, etc. And he uses his magic for selfish reasons, which is technically against the Code of the Genie (even if it doesn't seem to be enforced much...). |
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Hourglass |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I am unsure what to say about Genies morals. On one hand he stripped sultan of his authority and moved his palace. Obviously sultan did nothing wrong deserving of that (That we know of). We see Genie is capable of doing bad things. |
Umm... yeah, but he was under the captivity of the lamp. He HAD to do those things...
Have we ever seen him do anything immoral of his own free will? I don't believe we have. |
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Calluna |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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iamstillhiro1112 wrote: |
Well, I am unsure what to say about Genies morals. On one hand he stripped sultan of his authority and moved his palace. Obviously sultan did nothing wrong deserving of that (That we know of). We see Genie is capable of doing bad things. |
That was while he was a slave of the lamp and was obeying Jafar's wish, though. He definitely wouldn't do that of his own free will.
On that subject, Genie seems a lot more strict about the genie rules than Jafar or even Eden. I mean, compare how those two treated Abis Mal to how Genie treated Jafar... |
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iamstillhiro1112 |
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I am unsure what to say about Genies morals. On one hand he stripped sultan of his authority and moved his palace. Obviously sultan did nothing wrong deserving of that (That we know of). We see Genie is capable of doing bad things. |
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Mariposa79 |
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:22 am Post subject: |
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AladdinsGenie wrote: |
Meesh wrote: |
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Plus if Genie had saved Cassim... we wouldn't get to see Aladdin in that hott rogue outfit.
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Thats enough reason for me! |
*points to avatar* |
That's hott! I love it when Aladdin rebels. What I think is that Aladdin is the type of guy is when he starts something ( Cassim is the initial incident that changes the story and appears into Aladdin's life.) then Aladdin has to finish it. ( by freeing his father and getting out of his life.)
And every other reason that was posted up here. |
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