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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="AladdinsGenie"][quote="Disney Princess"]This seems to be the first time that JASMINE really seems to pay attention to how attractive Aladdin is. His face changes dramatically as he helps her up, from "aw, here, I'll help you out" back to the "Woooow" from when he first saw her.[/quote] Yeah, not to mention the situation they were in before hand. Um...she was gonna get her hand chopped off. There wasn't time for a "Damn, you're HOT. I think I'll save you!" "I could say the same for you! Thanks!" moment :lol:. They were kinda caught up in something else, so I think that would be the last thing you're thinking about. He just knew he had to save this girl. He's a nice guy, he does that. After they got far away from the marketplace and the situation, THEN there was time for "*trips" Oh dang nabbit. I'm sorry abo....ooh, Y HALO THAR ALADDIN!" :lol:. It's the first time you really see she acknowledges he's not too bad on the eyes because during the MP scene, she was out of it (not to mention running away from that same thing. You run away from all the icky boys to find more icky boys? What? :lol:). Then you get to the hovel scene and the actual substancial connection is made ALONG WITH the attraction. They didn't fall in love per se, but there was more definitely a spark that I wouldn't call lust either. Any "lust" that would have been there was quickly put out when they realized they had more in common than they thought and it was a deeper common bond. You start to see a relatability there that I don't think would have come across or even happened if Jasmine wasn't in disguise and not putting the princess image first.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:04 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Disney Princess wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This seems to be the first time that JASMINE really seems to pay attention to how attractive Aladdin is. His face changes dramatically as he helps her up, from "aw, here, I'll help you out" back to the "Woooow" from when he first saw her.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yeah, not to mention the situation they were in before hand. Um...she was gonna get her hand chopped off. There wasn't time for a "Damn, you're HOT. I think I'll save you!" "I could say the same for you! Thanks!" moment <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. They were kinda caught up in something else, so I think that would be the last thing you're thinking about. He just knew he had to save this girl. He's a nice guy, he does that. <br />After they got far away from the marketplace and the situation, THEN there was time for "*trips" Oh dang nabbit. I'm sorry abo....ooh, Y HALO THAR ALADDIN!" <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. It's the first time you really see she acknowledges he's not too bad on the eyes because during the MP scene, she was out of it (not to mention running away from that same thing. You run away from all the icky boys to find more icky boys? What? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />). <br />Then you get to the hovel scene and the actual substancial connection is made ALONG WITH the attraction. They didn't fall in love per se, but there was more definitely a spark that I wouldn't call lust either. Any "lust" that would have been there was quickly put out when they realized they had more in common than they thought and it was a deeper common bond. You start to see a relatability there that I don't think would have come across or even happened if Jasmine wasn't in disguise and not putting the princess image first.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That whole line is messing with their images. It's way more than just hte DVDs. From the stock art to the stuff they sell, it's a good and bad thing.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Keeping characters from some of the more classic Disney films 'accessible' to the public? Good! <br /> <br />Doing so at the expense of what the lessons of their movies were and who their characters were and what they stood for and what made them endearing and classic in the first place? Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad....</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Correction: they fell in lust over a period of three days. Love happened during their engagement.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I disagree. I will admit that ALADDIN'S first attraction to Jasmine was about 99% based on her own outward appearance. Infatuation and lust at first sight? Yes, from his perspective. But even that, while the main source of his attention to her, was certainly not the only thing that could have drawn to her (after all, she was almost completely covered up when he first saw her <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> ). As early as "Morning, ladies!" and "One Jump Ahead," it's clear that Aladdin likes to show off around women, particularly if they are attractive. But that same sequence also shows that there are a decent number of attractive women in Agrabah, and that Aladdin has obviously met some of them before. However, it is unlikely that this deep trance-like stage that Jasmine pulled him into occured with every single attractive woman on whom he laid eyes, simply because there are keys to indicate that he notices pretty women frequently, and with the lifestyle that he lives, he couldn't BE that distracted so frequently. He's keen to how 'tough' the marketplace can be, and Jasmine isn't like that. <br /> <br /> <br />She's taking it in with refreshing (to Al) wide-eyed innocence and trying to help out where she can, and is naive enough not to know that she could get herself in a lot of trouble that way. The protective side of Aladdin that was moved to give his hard-earned bread to starving children is also driven to help out this girl, and the change in his expression as he watches Farouk hassel her indicates that his actions are no longer motivated by how pretty she is, but the fact that she needs help and he knows he can offer that. I don't even view the hovel scene as a "Let's take the pretty girl where we can be alone" tactic...he still seems to be in this 'protective' state of mind until the part where Jasmine trips into his arms. Their body language as he helps her onto that first rooftop (in those first seconds when the scene changes from Jafar's lair back to Aladdin and Jasmine), and even in the reflection in Jafar's hourglass, just seems...casual. Not they they are oblivious to each others' attractiveness, but he exudes 'helpful' and she 'gratefulness.' When she falls, THAT'S when I think the change occurs. This seems to be the first time that JASMINE really seems to pay attention to how attractive Aladdin is. His face changes dramatically as he helps her up, from "aw, here, I'll help you out" back to the "Woooow" from when he first saw her. <br /> <br />While I'm not going to say that they fell "in love" in that one scene, at least compared to what we see over the course of the series, it is obvious that they make a connection that goes much deeper than this by now acknowledged physical attraction. They both let their guard down a little bit around each other and do a bit of soul-baring. The attraction factor has been established, but Aladdin seems genuinely curious to learn more ABOUT Jasmine. He seems at ease around her, and vice versa, even though both of them have been established as relatively guarded individuals who have a lot of thoughts about life bottled up inside that they can't, or simply don't, share with anyone else. Here, Aladdin really shares the fact that he dreams about what it would be like to live in the palace, and without revealing her identity, Jasmine, without an argument breaking out like would be the case with her father, admits to being frustrated that she isn't treated as an individual and wishing for some freedom in her life. When they realize they share the same dissatisfaction with a life that leaves them feeling 'trapped,' they reach some common ground that leaves them feeling surprised and appreciative. Neither of them seems to have encountered much understanding before, but in the space of one conversation, they learn that they have a lot in common and appreciate being able to relate to each other. That 'trapped' moment leads Aladdin to ask more about Jasmine and her in turn to reveal a little more about herself. Neither of them moves to kiss the other right after they become overwhelmed with attraction, but after Aladdin expresses wishing that he could help Jasmine with the parts of life that trouble her. <br /> <br /> <br />Even when Aladdin goes to the palace as Prince Ali, it is when he confesses that he is sorry for have treated her like a prize to be won that she first considers giving him a chance. We don't know if Jasmine finds Ali attractive or not before she decides that he is worth her attention, because that is unimportant to her. She seems to tune into who a person is and how he acts before she gives serious consideration to appearances. He seems to become attrative to her when she finds that he has enough of an understanding of her to know that she would appreciate being spoken to as a person, not treated as an object, and being shown the world beyond the one that she feels has stifled her for so long. If they were merely in lust, he would not be so perceptive to her and she wouldn't have cared so much about the sort of attention that he pays to her. <br /> <br /> <br />It may still be young love, but by the time the movie ends, yes, they LOVE each other, and that love is based on an openness, trust, friendship, and mutual friendship and appreciation for each other. Over the course of subsequent canon, that love develops and deepens and grows far beyond what we see at the end of the movie, and no, it isn't always EASY for them, but had there not been something more than a deep physical attraction to begin with, there is no way that they would have cared to have made it through some of their early arguments in the first movie and The Return of Jafar. Aladdin and Jasmine are the first Disney couple that I feel demonstrate true compatibility and a grow into a relationship with a firm and deep foundation beyond physical appearances and hopelessly romantic ideals.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Spartan Girl</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:10 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I do find it annoying that they refer to Mulan as a "Disney Princess." But then again, maybe they call her a princess because all of the good qualities she has, just like in the book <span style="font-style: italic">A Little Princess</span>. I don't know, it's probably more along the lines of lazy advertising. <br /> <br />And yes, the merchandising does annoy me. It's just as bad as all those Barbie fairy tale movies they're cranking out (no offense to those that like them). But to be fair, the dolls and costumes are pretty cute.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Nez wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">You have made some very valid points. <br /> <br />However, I think the problem lies with the marketing of the Princess products, particularly the DVDs. From what I've heard, they don't represent the princesses' personalities and when they do, it's very superfical. I think it would be better for parents with little girls who are interested in Disney to see the actual films and not the Princess DVDs, though so far it's the only way you'll get to see the "Aladdin" and "Little Mermaid" series.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That whole line is messing with their images. It's way more than just hte DVDs. From the stock art to the stuff they sell, it's a good and bad thing.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:20 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I remember that one of the staff members of my high school newspaper wrote an editorial about how much the Disney girls disgusted her. While I must admit that she had some valid points concerning their appearance (i.e. they're all beautiful and thin)</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Just because people are beautiful and thin doesn't mean others must shrink back in disgust at them! Now, if someone were beautiful, thin and a biatch it would be different. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Snow White- Yes, she was first and one of the sweetest Disney princesses, but when it comes to brains, she comes up short. As a runaway fleeing her evil stepmother, you'd think she'd be a bit more wary of trusting strangers, let alone a sinister-looking old woman! And believing that tripe about the "magic wishing apple"? Come ON!!! And on a related note, didn't anyone find it a bit creepy that the prince kissed her when she was supposedly dead? Maybe it was a sign of love and respect, but if you tried that at a funeral today, people would think you're a necrophile. </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It was a peck! I re-watched the movie and he didn't kiss her for that long. Barely 2 seconds. It was creepy when you think about it, but it did save her from eternal sleep. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />And in Snow's defense, she <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> wary of the old woman. The only reason she let her inside was becasue she pretended she was having a heart attack. She let her in to have a drink of water. The audience knows the old woman is really the evil queen, but how on earth was Snow supposed to know that the old lady was really her step-mom who magicked herself to look like an old lady so that she could give her a poison apple? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> And Snow took the "wishing apple" the way anyone would put coins in a wishing well. Who would really put their hard-earned money in a wishing well? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">her melodramatic reaction to finding out that she's really royalty and she's engaged a guy she thinks that she has never met.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Her reaction was perfectly justified and normal. Her reaction could've been worse than just giving them the silent treatment. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The Little Mermaid- I know Ariel's gotten a lot of flack over the years; in one of Meg Cabot's books, she is regarded as "a feminist's worst nightmare because she abandoned her own species to secure a man." </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Wasn't Cabot paying attention to the part in the movie where she sings about being 'part of that world?' She wanted to be human way before she ever laid eyes on Eric. She even had a collection of human junk in a little cave. She even wished for two fins, once, so that she could pretend to be human. She didn't abandon her species, she lives right next door! <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> Besides, all children grow up, get married and move away from their family. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Maybe they eat plankton and seaweed, which would explain it. </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />In the show, they ate seaweed-spagetti and sea-donuts. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In the original Snow White, didn't she cough up the apple, or something? I remember that in one version, but I don't read that particular story as much as the others. <br /> <br />I also have a few versions of Sleeping Beauty where the Prince doesn't even kiss her--just falls to his knees, or something. <br /> <br />I kind of wish they'd have brought either the comb or the courset into Disney's Snow White. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jafaria</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:15 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My thoughts exactly.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Overall, I don't have a problem with the princesses in and of themselves. It's the hyper-shallow princess line of moichandice that annoys me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jafaria</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Today I was in JC Penney and I saw little girls' "Disney Princess" watches and one set had Ariel, Jasmine, and Mulan. I'm all for Mulan getting some promotion here, but I also find it sickening that Disney seems to think they need to call Mulan a princess. I've never liked the princesses very much, but I like Mulan. The Princess line in general sickens me, but the addition of Mulan makes it worse. If they want to make character merchandise, they should make it with the characters as they are, not trying to pigeonhole them into some category they don't quite fit.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:55 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ah... I see. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell when someone is going into funny mode, especially when the rest of the article is fairly non-funny... or vice-versa. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Spartan Girl</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">POST IT POST IT!!! I'd love to read it! <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Um, regarding my comments about Snow White, I just wrote that to be funny. It actually is kind of romantic. I went to Frankenmuth, MI and at the Bavarian Inn restaurant, they have murals of fairy tales painted on the walls. My favorite one is from Snow White: the prince is actually holding Snow White in his arms, leaning his head down to kiss her. It's pretty sweet. <br /> <br />Maybe I can find a picture on the Internet and show it...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The assumption that Ariel was all about leaving her home and family for some guy is exactly what my sister complained of years ago. But honestly, I don't even think about that. I didn't think of the fact that she was fascinated by humans before Eric anyway, but now I have an argument to use if people want to say she's a bad role model because she left her family for a guy. <br />No, what I think about is how she saved Eric--not once, but twice. Remember when Ursula tried to blast him? She didn't start crying and freaking out. She pushed Ursula out of the way, causing the sea witch to get Flotsom and Jetsom instead. <br /> <br />Actually, I wrote a paper on the Disney Princesses for school last semester. I don't believe I've posted it here, but maybe I should. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: My thoughts on the Disney Princess</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">And on a related note, didn't anyone find it a bit creepy that the prince kissed her (Snow White) when she was supposedly dead? Maybe it was a sign of love and respect, but if you tried that at a funeral today, people would think you're a necrophile.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Nope. I find it likely that the prince considered it a horrible tragedy that this young woman died before ever having the chance to live, find true love, etc. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Cinderella- Okay, let's forget for a moment that she married the prince less than 24 hours after she had met him.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />What?! There was nothing in the movie to hint how much time had passed between the time they met and the time they were actually married. <br /> <br />The Little Mermaid- I know Ariel's gotten a lot of flack over the years; <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">in one of Meg Cabot's books, she is regarded as "a feminist's worst nightmare because she abandoned her own species to secure a man." </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Give me a break, Megsy. Did you actually watch the movie? Last I checked, Ariel was fascinated with humans and wanted to experience human life for herself. Eric just happened to give her further motivation. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Belle (from Beauty and the Beast)- Belle is the one Disney princess I could relate to most. She liked books, she didn't have the golden looks most Disney princess before her had, and she couldn't stand that ***hole Gaston. I knew two guys in high school that were just like him. Not only was she intelligent, she was also was the first Disney girl that didn't fall in love at first sight. She wasn't willing to put up with the Beast bossing her around, which is a good message to those that are in destructive relationships. Yes, she did stay with him, but only because he got hurt trying to save her life. What's most important is that she fell in love with the Beast before he changed into the handsome prince. So all in all, Belle is a good role model for girls. And her gold dress? Gorgeous.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />No matter how you look at it, Belle is all-around cool. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Jasmine (from Aladdin)- Another step in the right direction. You know in the first version of the movie, Jasmine was kind of a spoiled brat, so thank goodness she changed into the defiant, indepedent character most of us admire. Even though she and Aladdin fell in love in a period of roughly three days, it took two other movies and a TV series for them to actually tie the knot. Which just goes to show you that there's nothing wrong with a long engagement.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Correction: they fell in lust over a period of three days. Love happened during their engagement. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Mulan- Belle and Jasmine might have set the stage for the independent woman, but Mulan kicked that "damsel in distress" sterotype all the way out of the film reel. The staff member I mentioned earlier stated in her article that no Chinese girl would have acted so "disrespectfully." Even though it was illegal to disguise as a soldier, what's not to respect? She kicks butt and saves the kingdom! It's a good message to girls that they achieve anything if they put their mind to it.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Bah. Anyone who disses Mulan for what she did needs to get their head put on straight. She risked her life to save her father's. <br /> <br />[/QUOTE]And while I have the chance, I beg of you: STOP BUYING THE CRAPPY DISNEY SEQUELS!!!! Seriously, I have seen plans to make a third sequel to Cinderella and The Little Mermaid, and a Fox and the Hound 2. Do we really need this?! Go to a freaking bookstore and get some new ideas, Disney![/quote] <br />No argument from me. The sequels make all effort to turn the characters into mockeries of the original. Disgusting.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Nez</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">You have made some very valid points. <br /> <br />However, I think the problem lies with the marketing of the Princess products, particularly the DVDs. From what I've heard, they don't represent the princesses' personalities and when they do, it's very superfical. I think it would be better for parents with little girls who are interested in Disney to see the actual films and not the Princess DVDs, though so far it's the only way you'll get to see the "Aladdin" and "Little Mermaid" series.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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