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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="AladdinFan92"]Great essay,Hikaru! Call me crazy,but it reminds me of that post I made awhile back entitled "The Role of Disney Princesses in Films" or something like that. I agreed with pretty much every argument you used. Very well written,and on one of my favorite topics! I can't tell you how many times I've said he exact same thing to my friends who insist on making fun of the Disney Princesses. :roll:[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">They play it as an experience that jars her...probably changes and teaches her a lot. The movie doesn't focus on Jasmine's guilt trip, but we see that she HAS one.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm so glad someone you mentioned that <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />A friend of mine thought Jasmine was rather mopey in the movie, but failed to see the reason why. She wasn't very mopey at the beginning of the movie - she even had a cheerful, teasing attitude about Achmed. She became mopey after finding out that the nice boy that not only understood her but saved her life was beheaded because of her. The audience knows that Jafar is lying about beheading Aladdin but Jasmine doesn't know this. She thought that it was her fault. He saved her life but she couldn't do the same for him. <br /> <br />She had tried to save him when she took a risk to expose her disguise and reveal she was the princess. She couldn't even manage to save him even with her high status and royal power. Jafar, being a man, has more power than she does as the Sultan's daughter. She told both Jafar and the Sultan about how she felt and they both brushed her off. Even the Sultan told her to forget about the whole thing and brought up the topic of suitors again. (an insensitive thing to do after your daughter has just told you she failed to save a boy's life after failing to run away effectively) <br /> <br />She acted rashly and ran away. I sympathised and sided with her because there was nothing much else she could do. Running away from a forced marriage (her birthday was coming soon) is better than sitting around and doing nothing.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:40 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Janette Morgan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">But she could have <span style="font-style: italic">tried</span>.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I always got the impression that she had tried, many times, and given up quite a while before the movie begins. It sounds like a conversation that they've had variations of many a time before. <br /> <br />And...remember, she's YOUNG. They scrapped the 16th birthday line from the movie, but the intent was there...wish I knew at what stage of production they changed the birthday line and if the character was adjusted to be made slightly older, etc. But we have 15-going-on-16 as at least a ballpark figure. Yes, 16 was much more 'adult' centuries ago than it is now, people didn't live as long and so they had to assume more responsibilities younger, etc., but this was a fairy tale and though it was meant to be a 'timeless' telling of a story, this movie especially was not afraid to at the same time be very contemporary, so Jasmine was intended to be a teenager of the 1990s, struggling and clashing with a parent and having a hard time coming into the role she has the responsibility to fill, and dealing with her frustrations in a way that maybe isn't the most rational, maybe isn't the 'best,' but is what she feels in her gut. <br /> <br />I still argue that any discussion over what she SHOULD have done and how she should have handled the situation is interesting, but a little irrelevant at the end of the day; she ran away because...the plot called for it. The story was structured so she'd meet Aladdin, in disguise, and do so in HIS world, not hers. They play it as an experience that jars her...probably changes and teaches her a lot. The movie doesn't focus on Jasmine's guilt trip, but we see that she HAS one.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Janette Morgan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:49 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">So instead of trying to resolve her situation, she just ran from it. Y'know, she could have talked to the Sultan instead of just grousing to every other character in the room. <br /> <br />Course, I'm not sure that the Sultan would have understood... he was a bit airheaded. But she could have <span style="font-style: italic">tried</span>.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"People who tell you where to go and how to dress... you're never free to make your own choices!" <br /> <br />"Oh, that stupid law! This isn't fair!" <br /> <br />"The law is wrong!" <br /> <br />"Stuck-up, self-absorbed, overdressed..." <br /> <br />"I can't stand around and let other people live my life for me." <br /> <br />"If I do marry, I want it to be for love."</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Those didn't sound like complaints, especially the last one. Her wanting to marry for love is right and proper. She didn't want to be stuck in a loveless relationship for the rest of her life. She's thinking outside the box and she's thinking intelligently <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> It isn't any more whiny than someone standing up against an unfair law today. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The scene where she chews out Jafar for having Aladdin arrested.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You mean beheaded <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"How dare you! Standing around deciding my future?" <br /> <br />"Father, what's wrong with you?"</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />He was acting like a hypnotised puppet. And he told her to marry Jafar. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> What did you expect her to do? <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">She's always complaining about SOMETHING, except when she's busy drooling over Aladdin.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />In much the same way Aladdin kept talking about being a streetrat except when he was with Jasmine. I didn't consider Aladdin to be complaining though, he only wanted to prove himself and have a better life. He didn't sit around dissatisfied with his condition either. He did something about it, the way Jasmine did something about her situation by running away.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Janette Morgan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I wasn't saying she didn't have a reason; it's just that she complained a <span style="font-style: italic">lot</span> during the movie.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">And if you notice, all those quotes have to do about her life. Your life is being lived through someone else's rules that you have no power over and you're basically a robot doing what everyone else tells you to do....wouldn't you complain? Shoot, I'd take it a step further and bitch every day <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. I guess I equate speaking out against something and complain as two different things in my head.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LaGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">She is a little bit of a complainer. But if you think about we all are a little bit whiny sometimes. Like why do we have so much homework or this is unfair. They made her realistic but a little bit too much.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Janette Morgan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Billy Joe wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Ghee, I really don't remember her complaining all that much <img src="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />A few random quotes: <br /> <br />"People who tell you where to go and how to dress... you're never free to make your own choices!" <br /> <br />"Oh, that stupid law! This isn't fair!" <br /> <br />"The law is wrong!" <br /> <br />"Stuck-up, self-absorbed, overdressed..." <br /> <br />"If I do marry, I want it to be for love." <br /> <br />"I can't stand around and let other people live my life for me." <br /> <br />-- The scene where she chews out Jafar for having Aladdin arrested. <br /> <br />"How dare you! Standing around deciding my future?" <br /> <br />"Father, what's wrong with you?" <br /> <br /> <br />She's always complaining about SOMETHING, except when she's busy drooling over Aladdin.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinFan92</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: My Disney Princess Paper That I Wrote</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Great essay,Hikaru! Call me crazy,but it reminds me of that post I made awhile back entitled "The Role of Disney Princesses in Films" or something like that. I agreed with pretty much every argument you used. Very well written,and on one of my favorite topics! I can't tell you how many times I've said he exact same thing to my friends who insist on making fun of the Disney Princesses. <img src="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">"Father, if I do marry...I want it to be to have someone to b**** to! Maybe if I run away, I'll find the freedom...er...doormat that I've ALWAYS dreamed of!"</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Oh, pshaw. She only ran away so she could go complain to Aladdin. <img src="http://www.springhole.net/smileys/tongue.gif" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yeah, because she called him up before hand and planned out that whole marketplace scene before she ran away. Then, if she escaped with her life, she could complain about it <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Iago</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:31 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ghee, I really don't remember her complaining all that much <img src="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Oh, pshaw. She only ran away so she could go complain to Aladdin. <img src="http://www.springhole.net/smileys/tongue.gif" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ariellen</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:54 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think that running away is more than complaining...at least it was doing something about the things she was complaining about. Not in the most responsible of ways, but she had to meet Aladdin somehow. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" />:</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Gee... now that you mention it, Jasmine really didn't do much other than complain. <br /> <br />Ah, well... she got Awesome in the series, so I hear. <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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