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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="AladdinsGenie"]It is pointless and I don't understand it. I mean, he's gonna change out of whatever you're taking all this time to describe in the next two paragraphs anyways, so let's just keep going. It could just be how I read, but I find myself sometimes having to go back and re-read what happened before I got to the tl;dr paragraph that took me out of the fic for a while, and I don't like having to do that. "What they're wearing" is also one that kills me, especially if it's for a character that's not wearing anything new from what they usually do. Also, I don't know if this is really common in other fandoms, but I know in the Kingdom Hearts fandom, it's pretty freaking standard to come up with 10,000 names for eye colors and what to describe the eyes in general. If I see the word 'orb' one more time... I wish more people would remember that with Genie. Everyone worries about making him funny, but if you just write the fic, the funny will come later. Someone somewhere will set themselves up for a joke, or he'll see the opportunity to do something that someone might want to kill him for later, but he'll find hilarious. Not even in canon is everyone word he's saying funny, so I don't get why that's a problem in fanfic. It's usually something modern or kind of anachronistic like Mariah (yes, the fandom is full of anachronisms, but I can suspend my belief for some of those. However, I can't really believe they'd name their child Britney :lol:), or they're named after some type of jewel like Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, Jade, etc. (this one is really common for some reason), or if they have a son his name will be Ali. I get Ali is a pretty common name in that area and is definitely not a stranger to our fandom, but it's just sooooo over-done in Aladdin fanfic. It makes me think Aladdin and Jasmine named him that as an in-joke to the first few days they met. "Remember Prince Ali? We should name our son that!" ....actually, that might make me like it more if they explained it that way :lol: (Lots of thought is much appreciated :lol:)[/quote]
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VampireNaomi
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:34 am
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere, but I just noticed it, so I'm posting about it here. Why the heck are Genie and Carpet included as a single character in FF.Net's character filter? If Malcho gets to be there on his own, why not Genie and Carpet? There are several fics focusing on Genie, so there's no reason to shove him together with Carpet. It does a disservice to everyone who is looking for stories about either one because there's no telling if they both appear in the story or just one of them.
Also, I haven't been reading any Aladdin fanfiction in ages. If you know of any new stories in which Mechanikles has even a cameo, let me know. I'd like to add all such stories to my Mechanikles C2 category.
lisa jane
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:51 pm
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I'm trying to get back into writing my sequel... it's pretty pathetic, it took three months to write twenty nine chapters for the first part, and it's taken ten months to write ten chapters to the second part.
I don't like how it's going though, so far it's taken two weeks to write five hundred words
Not even being in an Aladdin RPG is helping me write it faster...
AmethystFae
Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:38 am
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Cantare wrote:
Self-plugs, then:
Genfic about Genie:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4100548/1/The_Man_Who_Freed_Me
Suspense/romance fic currently under revision, Mozenrath/Jasmine (don't know what your tastes are but some are turned off by this pairing):
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3488835/1/Antiphony
Romance/tragedy one-shot from Aladdin's POV, pre-movie:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4780635/1/Sunset
Angst/tragedy with experimental style from Jasmine's POV - not really a M/J pairing, it's more like A/J under stress...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4503545/1/Chrysolite
Plugs for others:
Hilarious fic on Al and Razoul having a drinking contest:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3900779/1/A_Drinking_Contest
Another hilarious fic, this time a romantic comedy, Mozenrath/Sadira:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2439921/1/alls_fair_in_love_and_sorcery
One-shot character study on Ayam Aghoul:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4299091/1/Ayam_What_Ayam
Adventure/angst fic set 6 years after the series:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1240961/1/Gone
Sad/heartfelt one-shot from Jafar's POV as a jinni:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2379067/1/I_See
AU where Mozenrath and Aladdin grew up in each other's shoes:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2622982/1/The_Poles_Reversed
And perhaps the best fic I have read for Aladdin anywhere, but not on ffnet: a Genie-centric one-shot.
http://yuletidetreasure.org/archive/84/wholenew.html
I love the drinking contest one, and have read it twice. Also, I took your advice and am reading the Moz/Sadira fic. So far, it looks promising.
Here's one I enjoyed:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5201454/1/Innocence_and_Evil_An_Aladdin_Adventure
I don't always like "Jafar back from the dead" stories, because it's been run into the ground already, but I think everybody was pretty in character here, the Abis Mal scenes made me laugh, and I liked the whole moral dalemma at the end.
~Hikaru
Vampligea
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:26 pm
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I want to post a shameless plug!!!!
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5882397/1/Book_of_Wonders
I only have two reviews and some confusion on how to portray a character of my own...but ::toots own horn:: I think it's pretty good so far!
Jafaria
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:21 pm
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I use FFN, so I might as well self-promote here.
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4465857/1/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_Jafar
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5419691/1/The_Genie_Returns
The first one's a semi-epic Jafar prequel with an Arabian-Nights-style frame story. The second one is an Aladdin/The Mummy crossover with a title I actually don't like even though Return of the Sequel is a feature common to both franchises. I don't like the title because without the summary it's unclear what genie is returning.
AladdinFan92
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:42 pm
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When I first started writing fanfiction, I swore I wouldn't advertise my work on here, but since you're asking for people to post new material, and my story isn't getting too many reviews, I suppose a little self-promotion wouldn't hurt:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5529166/1/The_Tie_That_Binds
I love writing Aladdin fanfiction, and this is the first story I've posted in ages. It's not perfect, but it's much better than the other Aladdin fanfics I've written in the past. If any of you could take the time to read it and post some reviews on the site, I would really, really appreciate it.
Meesh
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:37 pm
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Yeah! Some member in the Library of Agrabah post "Challenges," where they post a story idea and challenge other writers to create stories out of them!
http://www.aladdincentral.org/library/challenges.php?PHPSESSID=61f01663e4134c36f2bc82854bc5a10e
persian85033
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:15 pm
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A challenge?
Meesh
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:09 pm
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You could look to see if somebody posted a challenge!
persian85033
Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:03 pm
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I've been wanting to write an Aladdin fic for quite a while, but can't seem to get a good enough idea. I don't like to write about their kids. I did once, I think, but I don't like the way it came out. Not sure about writing about Al or Jas's childhood, either. They meet different monarchs? Preparations for Al and Jas's wedding? Aladdin becoming sultan? Or 'training' for when he becomes sultan?
Meesh
Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:10 am
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About 5 years ago, I wrote that fanfic with their kids (moans again over having deleted it).
I made their son's name "Yusef" because that is my dad's Arabic name, and I forget what I named their daughter. "Najla" maybe, another family name. And I named Najla's love interest "Fuad," which is my great uncle's name.
And I like to think I'm pretty good with Genie. I just write as it comes. Like you said, an opportunity will arise by itself for a Genie joke or transformation. No need to try too hard.
As far as costume descriptions go, I'm okay with a paragraph so I can play it out like a movie in my head. But any more than a paragraph is unnecessary. These aren't novels. Besides, any character who needs that much is likely to be a Mary Sue/Stu.
lisa jane
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:50 pm
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I tend to skip right over entire chunks of stories where it explains in detail exactly what the character is wearing, I find it in other fandoms as well (especially where this goes on for entire paragraphs). I hardly explain what an OC character of mine wears or looks like, let alone the canon characters. I've realised I'm coming quite lazy though with actual descriptions, there's only so many descriptions of 'dark eyes' I can think of, not that it's particulary important to the storyline anyway.
I haven't created any kids of Jasmine and Aladdin to name, but in my fanfic (and sequel, sigh), I named Jasmine and Jafar's daughter Aziza - Arabic, means powerful/beloved, and I ran with that name because it was relatively easy for me to spell a million times. Admittedly, I named their son Jafar as well; at the time, there was a reason for it and that's in the story, but now that I've got the sequel going, if I could go back and just change the damn name, I would...
I did start uploading my story to this website, but after the first chapter, I couldn't be bothered uploading all the other thirty-five chapters (and counting).
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:55 am
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It is pointless and I don't understand it. I mean, he's gonna change out of whatever you're taking all this time to describe in the next two paragraphs anyways, so let's just keep going. It could just be how I read, but I find myself sometimes having to go back and re-read what happened before I got to the tl;dr paragraph that took me out of the fic for a while, and I don't like having to do that.
"What they're wearing" is also one that kills me, especially if it's for a character that's not wearing anything new from what they usually do. Also, I don't know if this is really common in other fandoms, but I know in the Kingdom Hearts fandom, it's pretty freaking standard to come up with 10,000 names for eye colors and what to describe the eyes in general. If I see the word 'orb' one more time...
I wish more people would remember that with Genie. Everyone worries about making him funny, but if you just write the fic, the funny will come later. Someone somewhere will set themselves up for a joke, or he'll see the opportunity to do something that someone might want to kill him for later, but he'll find hilarious. Not even in canon is everyone word he's saying funny, so I don't get why that's a problem in fanfic.
It's usually something modern or kind of anachronistic like Mariah (yes, the fandom is full of anachronisms, but I can suspend my belief for some of those. However, I can't really believe they'd name their child Britney
), or they're named after some type of jewel like Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, Jade, etc. (this one is really common for some reason), or if they have a son his name will be Ali. I get Ali is a pretty common name in that area and is definitely not a stranger to our fandom, but it's just sooooo over-done in Aladdin fanfic. It makes me think Aladdin and Jasmine named him that as an in-joke to the first few days they met. "Remember Prince Ali? We should name our son that!"
....actually, that might make me like it more if they explained it that way
(Lots of thought is much appreciated
)
Eveishxx
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:24 pm
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You explained your thoughts well.
I understood what you meant, and I agree. I guess when it comes to describing Genie's transformations I've never felt the need to write a paragraph long description of his appearance. That idea has never even occurred to me (and this is only the second time I've written him). I think I figure in the back of my mind that it isn't necessary to "over describe" or "over explain" because it would detract from the focus of the piece. That type of lengthy description is pointless and I hate reading it in Aladdin fanfics.
I tend to reserve paragraph long descriptions for the explanation of a character's emotions or a setting, not what a character is wearing or their overall physical appearance. I don't want to be labeled as a"Novice Fanfiction Writer", y'know? Besides, I'm not one, so...
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The same goes for his lines. Not everything he says is funny. He actually, you know, talks.
Exactly. I tried my best to depict that as well. Genie's an endearing goofball, so I played up that side of his personality, but then I realized that it'd be a good idea to throw in some serious dialogue as well. Genie has to be calm sometimes. There needs to be balance in his personality, which is what we see in the Aladdin films and series.
I was worried that I made Genie transform too frequently in "Those Moments", but I think I'm fine since I spread the scenes out and placed scenes where the other characters were talking and interacting in between each of them. It's not like I had Genie and his goofiness dominate the fic.
Oh! And what odd names do other writers select for Jas and Al's kids? I tried to put a lot of thought into that one, too. -nods-
(I'm the queen of putting thought into things. It'll be the death of me.
)
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:07 pm
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Oh, you're welcome!
It's so hard to explain. There's just something weird about how people write the transformations that kind of pulls you out of the story too long for something that isn't really that important to the fic as a whole. It's just a joke that's suppose to be based off some visual pun or a moment for him to exaggerate the situation, but I feel like too much time is spent on them explaining the joke before I even get a chance to get it and it's just awkward. But then with something like this in your fic:
"A child who misbehaves," Genie supplied, "but you won't be one for long!" A fancy black suit appeared on his chest. "Mademoiselle Adeela, can I entice you with ze night's special? Eet's baklava. Per'aps you 'ave 'ad it, no?"
I got what was going on without you having to go into this long paragraph about the details of what he was wearing, what changed on his face maybe, that his voice was in an accent, etc. I got what was going on without it having to be spelled out for me. Even if we have two different images of what he was wearing exactly, it doesn't matter because I know he turned into something reminiscent of a French waiter and that's the joke. I got it and moved on. If it's not absolutely crucial to understand for the joke (like a pop culture reference), I don't need to spend forever on it.
And sometimes the transformations are completely ignored for lack of knowing how to add them in, which I understand, but this is Genie we're talking about
. I get a lot of his funny is based on visual aid so it doesn't always translate too well in fanfic, but it's just as weird for him to not change into something as it is for him to be constantly changing into stuff to the point where he becomes annoying and kind of OOC. The same goes for his lines. Not everything he says is funny. He actually, you know, talks.
/soap box, sorry
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