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[quote="Calluna"]In "Strike Up the Sand", I figure Al and Jas thought that Sadira was just confused by her feelings for Aladdin (I'm of the opinion that she's even younger than they are, so 14 or 15). She wasn't trying to hurt anyone, she helped them fight off the sand beast when it rebelled, she willingly gave up the power of the amulet, and she even (sort of) apologized. ("I’m sorry I made such a mess of things." Now there's a sentence that can be interpreted in more than one way...) Aladdin explained that he was in love with Jasmine, she said she understood, and they thought that would be enough. And at that point they probably thought she was powerless without the amulet, so not a threat, right? As for not persuing her after "SandSwitch"... I didn't think that was strange because it's how they act towards the other villains as well, like Abis Mal and Mechanikles. And of course no one tries to close down the Skull and Dagger. ;) Al seems to be big on giving people second chances, probably because of his own past (and that of his friends Iago and Abu). You can argue whether that's smart, but the way Sadira's treated is at least consistent. And Jasmine may not have Sadira arrested, but she doesn't forgive her at that point. Remember how angry she gets at the beginning of "Dune Quixote" when she finds out Al went over to Sadira's? Now, why *Aladdin* seems to have forgiven her at that point is a mystery. It's over the course of "Dune Quixote" that [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FireForgedFriends]Jas and Sadira become friends by working together to cure Aladdin[/url]. Jasmine sees Sadira is more than just some chick trying to steal her boyfriend, Sadira sees Jasmine's more than just some faceless spoiled princess, Sadira gives a *real* apology, and they go off to bond some more at the end of the ep. Of course, Aladdin missed all that, and he finds out Sadira took advantage of his trust and embarrassed him, so this time *he* hasn't forgiven her. I bet he would have gone after her at that point if not for Jasmine. Which brings us up to "Witch Way Did She Go?", and we know the rest! :wink:[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dustinm3</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: What is Sadira's problem</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Nice post! And welcome to Aladdin Central! <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>SadiraJasmineFan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hi! My name is Lauren. I'm a huge Aladdin fan! I know my username pretty much tells you who my two fave characters are. I've been a huge Aladdin fan since it first came out. I love the TV Series as well. I thought it was one of the more sophisticated and well thought-out series, even though TLM's series holds a special place in my heart too. Anyway, the reason Sadira is one of my favorite characters is because I can relate to her. I too grew up with hardly any parental influences in my life. All I wanted was to be loved and accepted by both my parents, but sadly it never happened. Unlike Sadira, I was fortunate to have people in my life to fill the gaps. When I was little I wanted Jasmine to be my older sister. Someone to stand up for me and comfort me at night when things got bad. But back to Sadira. I can understand why she kept pushing Jasmine's buttons even after Jas forgave her so many times. After Jasmine offered Sadira her friendship, Sadira was used to neither it nor the forgiveness Jas had given her. She needed to make sure Jasmine's friendship was sincere and unconditional. I applauded Jas for giving it to her. I understand exactly what Sadira was going through and feeling. Whenever someone would do something nice for me, I wouldn't think I deserved it. But unlike Sadira who pushed Jasmine by doing the wrong thing, I would shy away from the person's generosity until they showed it enough times that I could believe I deserved it and I was worth their time. While watching Sadira's episodes, I wanted to hug Jasmine for how she showed Sadira unconditional love as well as assure Sadira Jasmine meant it. When you grow up without someone telling you you’re worth it and showing you their unconditional love, you don’t know how to react when someone comes along and gives it to you freely. Jasmine is definitely an awesome role model for girls and even young women today.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>SadiraJasmineFan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: What is Sadira's problem</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi! My name is Lauren. I'm a huge Aladdin fan! I know my username pretty much tells you who my two fave characters are. I've been a huge Aladdin fan since it first came out. I love the TV Series as well. I thought it was one of the more sophisticated and well thought-out series, even though TLM's series holds a special place in my heart too. Anyway, the reason Sadira is one of my favorite characters is because I can relate to her. I too grew up with hardly any parental influences in my life. All I wanted was to be loved and accepted by both my parents, but sadly it never happened. Unlike Sadira, I was fortunate to have people in my life to fill the gaps. When I was little I wanted Jasmine to be my older sister. Someone to stand up for me and comfort me at night when things got bad. But back to Sadira. I can understand why she kept pushing Jasmine's buttons even after Jas forgave her so many times. After Jasmine offered Sadira her friendship, Sadira was used to neither it nor the forgiveness Jas had given her. She needed to make sure Jasmine's friendship was sincere and unconditional. I applauded Jas for giving it to her. I understand exactly what Sadira was going through and feeling. Whenever someone would do something nice for me, I wouldn't think I deserved it. But unlike Sadira who pushed Jasmine by doing the wrong thing, I would shy away from the person's generosity until they showed it enough times that I could believe I deserved it and I was worth their time. While watching Sadira's episodes, I wanted to hug Jasmine for how she showed Sadira unconditional love as well as assure Sadira Jasmine meant it. When you grow up without someone telling you you’re worth it and showing you their unconditional love, you don’t know how to react when someone comes along and gives it to you freely. Jasmine is definitely an awesome role model for girls and even young women today.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Booncy</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 8:17 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">These were my thoughts on Sadira in the "Best Aladdin episodes" thread: <a href="http://aladdincentral.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=86034" target="_blank">http://aladdincentral.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=86034</a> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Booncy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Princess of Agrabah wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />I agree with the Sadira thing..I do think he overreacted a little. I was surprised at how easily Jasmine forgave Sadira, too, but I guess it wasn't hard for them to find common ground.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I always got the vibe that the reason why Jasmine let Sadira get away with alot, and always forgave her so easily is because: <br /> <br />1. It's implied that Sadira is maybe a year or two younger than Jasmine. Given Sadira's young age & immaturity, Jasmine had the wisdom to see that Sadira was just acting childish rather than "evil". Jasmine could see that Sadira was just young, misguided, immature, & foolish and as good as said so in "Strike Up The Sand" when she said to Sadira: "Sadira, don't be a fool! You can't force Aladdin to love you." <br /> <br />2. For the most part Jasmine's secure in her relationship with Aladdin. I say "for the most part" because episodes like "Eye of the Beholder", "Forget Me Not", & a few other ones that I'm forgetting at the moment prove otherwise. Besides those extremely few times, 99% of the time Jasmine is secure in her relationship with Aladdin, so she was never really threatened by Sadira. <br /> <br />3. I get the vibe that for the longest time Jasmine must've wanted some female companionship in her life. Her mother's dead, and all of her friends are guys. Sure she loves her father, Aladdin, and the rest of her friends, but she must've longed for a female friend who she can relate to. I think that when she first met Sadira in "Strike Up The Sand", and Aladdin had introduced Sadira to Jasmine as a new friend of the gang that Jasmine must've been thrilled and finally saw the opportunity to have that female friend in her life to fill in that void of her life. <br /> <br />Reason #3 is the reason why I think Jasmine always forgives Sadira <span style="font-style: italic">the most</span>.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />To add onto that pre-Dune Quixote if Sadira's hormonal feelings for Aladdin weren't clouding her judgment of Jasmine & she were thinking clearly she'd realize that Jasmine is a good person at heart just based on the fact that her fiancee's a street rat. Sadira should've thought to herself "The royal princess of Agrabah's fiancee is a street rat, so she must not be a shallow, spoiled, stuck up princess after all." But because Sadira was so horny over Aladdin in her mind she made up Jasmine in her head to be this stuck-up, spoiled princess who was probably a b!tch and treated Aladdin like crap & took him for granted. That opinion of Jasmine was probably why Sadira always justified in her head her evil actions towards her. She probably thought to herself that she was "saving" Aladdin from this evil bitch who treated him like crap & took him for granted, and that she would be a much better choice for Aladdin because she would think that she is nicer than Jasmine is, is humble & down to Earth, and comes from the same world as Aladdin so she would understand him better than Jasmine ever could. Therefore I don't think Sadira even saw herself as a villain at all (most villains usually don't anyway when they're complex & well-written :p). The fact that she never wanted to harm or kill Jasmine (or anyone at all for that matter) or take over Agrabah and/or the 7 deserts are probably other reasons why in her head Sadira never saw herself as a villain at all. <br /> <br />Then comes "Dune Quixote" and she not only gets a chance to get to know Jasmine personally now, but she also gets to see why Aladdin thinks that Jasmine is such a good person as well and why he's engaged to this nice girl. <br /> <br />I said my thoughts on Jasmine's perspective in my original post on Sadira, but to also add onto that, Sadira was first introduced to Jasmine as a new <span style="font-style: italic">friend</span> to the gang rather than enemy. Also Sadira didn't give off a first impression that she's evil (which she isn't at all), so Jasmine would have no reason to view her as a villain like she would the rest of the series' villains.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Princess of Agrabah</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Right, I do think that if I put myself in her shoes I would have done a lot of the things she had done. I would have to say that between her and Jasmine I would identify a bit more with Sadira. She is one of my favorite characters..she's just misguided.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:11 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Princess of Agrabah wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I don't really think that Sadira is 'evil'. She doesn't want to hurt anybody--she just wants Al for herself. She's just a crazy fangirl <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. She does have a good heart as proven when she decides not to kill Jasmine when she had a chance to do so ( then again maybe she was smart enough to realize that Aladdin would get ticked <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> ). I just don't really see her as a serious villain--she just has a serious jealousy problem, which she did eventually overcome by "Witch Way Did She Go". Maybe she can hook up with <span style="font-size: 7px; line-height: normal">Al's evil older brother</span> Mozenwrath XD.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That's what I think, too. She's a fangirl. After all, I must admit that I would be the same way and probably do the same things, if not things that are more extreme to get Al if I were in her place. That's why she's one of my favorites. In a way, she and I are a bit alike. We would both do anything to get Al. I was quite mad/hopeful like in Elemental My Dear Jasmine, that Al and Jas were kind of having a misunderstanding and stuff. Believe it or not, I was kind of thinking, 'hm, maybe with this, I may have a shot'. Sadira will have a special part in my current story. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Princess of Agrabah</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't really think that Sadira is 'evil'. She doesn't want to hurt anybody--she just wants Al for herself. She's just a crazy fangirl <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. She does have a good heart as proven when she decides not to kill Jasmine when she had a chance to do so ( then again maybe she was smart enough to realize that Aladdin would get ticked <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> ). I just don't really see her as a serious villain--she just has a serious jealousy problem, which she did eventually overcome by "Witch Way Did She Go". Maybe she can hook up with <span style="font-size: 7px; line-height: normal">Al's evil older brother</span> Mozenrath XD.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't think Sadira is really a true villain. She's more like she just has a huge crush on Al. And I don't blame her. She thinks that by getting Jasmine out of the way, Al would fall for her. Besides, in the end, doesn't she eventually concentrate on another guy?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:58 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Also, growing up on the streets for basically all of his life, Aladdin mentally justified his stealing until he almost didn't seem to thing it was immoral at all because he needed to survive and wasn't <span style="font-style: italic">technically </span>hurting anybody. I'm thinking Sadira had a similar thing going on. She was used to justifying her wrongs because she was poor etc. <br /> <br />I think it's a similar thing here. Being so used to justifying her wrongs because of her poor state, I feel that she was able to convince herself that what she was doing wasn't wrong because there was no other way she had a chance at a good life/love/friendship/etc, and she wasn't <span style="font-style: italic">technically </span>hurting anybody (at least in her original plans).She never went against her plan until she saw someone was getting hurt. Then, I think she realized it was going wrong and couldn't justify it anymore. <br /> <br />In the end, partially because she was never taught how to make friends or make something of herself and partially because Al and Jas aren't dishonest/rough like probably the people on the streets, it took her a long time to realize that making friends might just take some trust, honesty, and bravery... no crimes in need of mental justification <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:17 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Oh, and it's possible they realize what Shakata says about her later: that what she *really* wants is a friend.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I guess they don't really see Sadira as a serious threat like the other villains because I don't see her as a threat or a villain either. Sadira, even magically charged with all her sand power, is harmless. What Sadira MAKES, however, is a different story <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. <br /> <br />She had a line she wouldn't cross throughout this whole thing where she doesn't want to kill or hurt anyone, she just wants Aladdin/for him to like her. She learned in her first attempt can't break up Aladdin and Jasmine as a couple, be that by physically removing one of them or otherwise, despite how much she feels Aladdin and herself have in common over him and Jasmine. But Sadira isn't the most confident person in the world and seeing him with someone like Jasmine made her a challenge to get around even knowing she doesn't have much of a chance in a number of levels, thus why she did things like cast a life swapping spell and create a fantasy world for them to live in to get around that. "I can't lock you up and I can't kill you, so I'll just master sand mesmerism and shifting time spells to change the field completely." Jasmine couldn't compete with that. <br /> <br />She's capable of a lot of potentially bad things, but I feel like somewhere deep inside they know she won't *really* do anything and I think she knows that, too. She was pretty blunt in Dune Quixote saying "Yes, I am trying to take him away from you - what of it?", but if she really wanted Jasmine gone, she could have did that forever ago. But, getting rid of Jasmine would make Aladdin pretty pissed off and that's not what she wants either. She just has a really hardcore crush that causes her to do some pretty desperate things that she later feels silly for. I think they acknowledge that and try to work with her despite Jasmine's initial feelings towards her and Aladdin's growing paranoia with her, but she keeps taking that as oppotunities to strike instead of hints to stop. <br /> <br />tl;dr: She's a girl with a crush, and they're trying to be nice to her despite her antics, but Sadira's raging hormones get in the way each time <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:52 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In "Strike Up the Sand", I figure Al and Jas thought that Sadira was just confused by her feelings for Aladdin (I'm of the opinion that she's even younger than they are, so 14 or 15). She wasn't trying to hurt anyone, she helped them fight off the sand beast when it rebelled, she willingly gave up the power of the amulet, and she even (sort of) apologized. ("I’m sorry I made such a mess of things." Now there's a sentence that can be interpreted in more than one way...) Aladdin explained that he was in love with Jasmine, she said she understood, and they thought that would be enough. And at that point they probably thought she was powerless without the amulet, so not a threat, right? <br /> <br />As for not persuing her after "SandSwitch"... I didn't think that was strange because it's how they act towards the other villains as well, like Abis Mal and Mechanikles. And of course no one tries to close down the Skull and Dagger. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> Al seems to be big on giving people second chances, probably because of his own past (and that of his friends Iago and Abu). You can argue whether that's smart, but the way Sadira's treated is at least consistent. <br /> <br />And Jasmine may not have Sadira arrested, but she doesn't forgive her at that point. Remember how angry she gets at the beginning of "Dune Quixote" when she finds out Al went over to Sadira's? Now, why *Aladdin* seems to have forgiven her at that point is a mystery. It's over the course of "Dune Quixote" that <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FireForgedFriends" target="_blank" class="postlink">Jas and Sadira become friends by working together to cure Aladdin</a>. Jasmine sees Sadira is more than just some chick trying to steal her boyfriend, Sadira sees Jasmine's more than just some faceless spoiled princess, Sadira gives a *real* apology, and they go off to bond some more at the end of the ep. <br /> <br />Of course, Aladdin missed all that, and he finds out Sadira took advantage of his trust and embarrassed him, so this time *he* hasn't forgiven her. I bet he would have gone after her at that point if not for Jasmine. Which brings us up to "Witch Way Did She Go?", and we know the rest! <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jasmine9</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:36 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: What is Sadira's problem?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ok, so we all love Sadira as a character and she makes for great story lines. But there's something about her duplicitous nature that bothers me. It's like, she's a "villain"... sort of... because she casts evil spells on people and stuff, but she's also not really that evil. Here's my big problem with Sadira..... <br /> <br />Ok, so she's a street rat, and she falls in love with Aladdin, so she creates a sand beast to kidnap his girlfriend. But she expressly doesn't want to <span style="font-style: italic">kill </span>her; she just wants her out of the way. So despite the fact that Jasmine is kidnapped and almost killed because some chick (adding insult to injury) was trying to STEAL her BOYFRIEND... she's still nice enough to invite Sadira to the palace and be her friend because, well, she's a princess. I guess that's the princessly thing to do. <br />Ok, so it's really, really nice of Jasmine to forgive Sadira for that whole boyfriend-stealing-and-kidnapping-and-almost-killing-her thing and invite her to hang out at the palace (which, if you're a street rat, is a pretty sweet deal). So how does Sadira repay Jasmine for her kindness and compassion? <br />By AGAIN trying to steal her boyfriend, this time by casting a spell to swap places with her. Apparently, once Iago, Abu, and Rajah broke the spell by getting Al and Jas back together, no one remembered any of it, but figure the animals explained it all later and Jasmine totes knew about it, in spite of which she still doesn't order Sadira executed or at least punished in some small way. <br />Once again, however, Sadira tries to steal Jasmine's boyfriend. She casts a spell on him to bring him into her fantasy world and in the process, almost gets them all killed by a dragon. Still, in the end, Jasmine forgives Sadira and even invites her for a shopping spree on her. So basically, this girl tries to steal Jasmine's boyfriend THREE TIMES, almost gets her killed TWICE, and turns her into a homeless pauper once.... yet Jasmine continually forgives her, invites her over, buys her stuff... <br />Let's ignore that whole evil-soup thing in Sadira's last appearance; that was legitimately an accident as we see in the episode. <br />What just baffles me is that despite Jasmine's kindness, Sadira continually messes with her. Anyone else have a problem with this?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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