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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Tailikku"][quote="Meesh"]My favorite part of the movie (hands down, without hesitation) is after Aladdin and Cassim escape, and Aladdin decides he needs to go back, regardless of the consequences. He knows what he went through having the man he loved most walk out on him, and wasn't going to make Jasmine go through that. I think that is definitely the highest point for his character, like he is ready to be a man.[/quote] To top it off, the bit where Aladdin is on the rooftop is an exact copy of his first scene in the first film.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think that theory is ... <br /> <br />(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■) <br /> <br />Jumping the shark. <br /> <br />YEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /><img src="https://31.media.tumblr.com/bf7c02abd355fc4b2c8d4019968b481b/tumblr_inline_n6mh10leI11qfgmkd.gif" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This was a great movie for not only the character development, but I think the subject matter was something very relatable concerning the Aladdin/Cassim relationship, and that was kind of a huge thing for a Disney movie ( a sequel at that ), to undertake, and I thought it was handled really well. Going back to the character development thing, the fact that Aladdin was able to stand on his own and be his own man even without having his father growing up was and is a really hopeful sort of example for kids to have, and even as a kid I liked that. <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The Aladdin series on whole really did handle character development well. From tackling tough issues like death (with Jasmine actually dying and Aladdin/Genie having the conversation about Aladdin's mortality) to relationship squabbles or whatever, the series did it well. Plus, you can see the character's changing and growing throughout. Despite some regressions (ie Rasoul), the series did a fantastic job. <br /> <br />Back to KOT specifically, I like that while the 40 Thieves were played as a bit silly, Sa'luk was allowed to be a serious villain, one that's smart, cunning, and a worthy adversary.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Princess of Agrabah</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Salukfan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">In regards to character growth, I want to mention Iago as well. He had some incredible growth over the course of the movies and series, probably the most of any character. <br /> <br />His choice to leave at the end of King of Thieves, to travel with a kindred spirit instead of stay around and live in the luxury he wanted for the whole of the series is a big transformation for him. I think it comes down to him finally finding a person he feels in belongs with, rather than being completely evil with Jafar or trying to be completely good with Aladdin and company. I'm sure Iago will complain about his random travelling in the desert, but I bet he and Cassim will have a lot of fun.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Definitely agreed! <br /> <br />This was a great movie for not only the character development, but I think the subject matter was something very relatable concerning the Aladdin/Cassim relationship, and that was kind of a huge thing for a Disney movie ( a sequel at that ), to undertake, and I thought it was handled really well. Going back to the character development thing, the fact that Aladdin was able to stand on his own and be his own man even without having his father growing up was and is a really hopeful sort of example for kids to have, and even as a kid I liked that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:22 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think that theory is ... <br /> <br />(•_•) / ( •_•)>⌐■-■ / (⌐■_■) <br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic">Jumping the shark.</span> <br /> <br />YEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Sa'luk also has yellow-ish eyes, I wouldn't be surprised if there's an underlying medical issue there. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> There's quite a mix of skin tones in the 40 Thieves, though the weirdest is the fakir who's pretty much green. What? <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />People have theorized that Sa'luk is possibly Mongolian, because he has a similar skin tone to the Huns in Mulan. Either that or his father is a cigarette or something. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br /><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/9/9e/ShanYuMulan.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />EDIT: Ooh! Wild theorizing time! There's the bit where Sa'luk kills the shark and his eyes look super shark-like for a moment. Maybe, just maybe, Sa'luk had a run-in with Saleen at one point. He was turned into a shark, like Aladdin, but his spell wasn't broken very well, so he still has shark attributes, like gray skin, oddly colored eyes, and super strength. Plus, we know he hates magic and that could be because he got all caught up with the wrong sea witch. <br /> <br />BOOM! Theorized! <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Giving him a flesh tone is actually better because it humanizes him in to something familiar and realistic (they do with this Jafar on the ROJ poster, too). The gray color just implies he's not human because who on Earth has gray skin except animals and people who don't have enough oxygen/blood flowing through their bodies (mostly corpses <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />)? It's a coded way to off-set the villains from the rest of the cast to make their defeat matter less. <br /> <br />But this does beg the question what on Earth race IS Sa'luk?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">(okay, please tell me if I do the images wrong this time. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> ) <br /> <br />I want to bring up a seedy and important issue lurking in the marketing and promotion of Aladdin and the King of Thieves: the blatant disrespect of Sa'luk. <br /> <br />Namely, no one could be bothered to get Sa'luk's race right. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br /><span style="font-size: 7px; line-height: normal">The film couldn't always bother either, but shhhh.</span> <br /> <br />In the media/merchandise: <br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/HWwKvlm.png" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Sa'luk is endlessly offended. His skin is <span style="font-style: italic">gray</span>, people. Look at him adamantly showing off! <br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/IAtIJ5l.gif" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I should probably mention I've been editing the posts and changing the pictures to the right code <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />My hero. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> Thank you! <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That is my understanding of an anti-hero, somebody who lacks a clear sense of virtue but isn't evil. (I always think of Captain Jack Sparrow as the pinnacle.) <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No, you're right there. I took the "anti" too seriously for a bit there. It's been way too long since I've taken an English course, man. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Yeah, I had self-motivation in my definition but must have taken it out. BUT YEAH THAT. <br /> <br />I've ALWAYS looked at Iago as one, but I'm thinking maybe Cassim too. He has a good heart but looks out for himself in most situations. <br /> <br />"You're good... but not too good." <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Meesh wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That is my understanding of an anti-hero, somebody who lacks a clear sense of virtue but isn't evil. (I always think of Captain Jack Sparrow as the pinnacle.)</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I've always read them as someone who isn't trying to do good but ends up doing good anyway in the process of whatever goal they're trying to accomplish (usually self-motivated).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I should probably mention I've been editing the posts and changing the pictures to the right code <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> it's [ i m g ] format, Samantha, not the < i m g> format. You don't need anything other than the URL address. If you highlight the pasted link in this box and then press the img button it'll add the code for you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I see them now <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> suppose Cassim and Iago are anti-heroes, though I think it's more that they're just sort of neutral and play the sides that they think need to be played. If I had to guess, Cassim plays a bit more to the good side and Iago a bit more to the bad side, but neither one of them moves far beyond the gray area. </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That is my understanding of an anti-hero, somebody who lacks a clear sense of virtue but isn't evil. (I always think of Captain Jack Sparrow as the pinnacle.)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:43 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I suppose Cassim and Iago are anti-heroes, though I think it's more that they're just sort of neutral and play the sides that they think need to be played. If I had to guess, Cassim plays a bit more to the good side and Iago a bit more to the bad side, but neither one of them moves far beyond the gray area. <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">(Also the links in your second post don't work, although I just copied and pasted the URL part) <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The pictures don't work? That's weird, I can see them just fine. Let me check it out.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Salukfan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> I think it comes down to him finally finding a person he feels in belongs with, rather than being completely evil with Jafar or trying to be completely good with Aladdin and company.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Also true! Do you think Iago and Cassim could be classified as anti-heroes? <br /> <br />(Also the links in your second post don't work, although I just copied and pasted the URL part)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Crazy for Al</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I love KoT. I think it may very well be my favorite Aladdin film (even though the original is good too.) The songs are great, the characters are just amazing, it's just very well done. (Yes, the quality of the animation is meh, but we can overlook that, right?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Salukfan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I plan to share a couple little things from KOT just because today. I'm feeling rather nostalgic at the moment. Sorry if I'm posting too much! <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />This is one of my favorite little background things: <br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/F51G4mN.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Look at that poor thief in the middle. He's not even that interested in what's going on. Reason? He's starving: <br /> <br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/0KqkAUp.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />A failed wedding raid makes for a mighty hungry thief. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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