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| xfkirsten |
 Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, like many folk tales, there's no "original date" known.  |
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| Syera |
| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| APK, I doubt that there's any you can point to being the "very original one." In fact, the original has most likely been lost to the modifications it received over time, just like any fairy tale. |
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| APK |
| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Kirsten, which story on the link was the very original one? |
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| AladdinsGenie |
| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:13 am Post subject: |
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I remember when I was in a remake of Beauty and the Beast when I was a kid that this travelling group put on at different schools all around the country. It was called Beauty Lou and the Country Beast. (BATB meets Hickville, basically  ) I was Beauty's youngest sister. All I did was cry and make the audience laugh at me not wanting to ever do chores . But some of the stuff in that link sounds familiar from the one we did. I do remember going through the script saying "Um...where's the talking furniture?" |
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| xfkirsten |
| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| ArabianPrincessKim wrote: |
| I know they were different, but how exactly was the original Beauty and the Beast Stories different from the Disney version? I remember that Belle originally had sisters and that she had no name. Also, there were no talking furniture. But otherwise, how was it different? |
Ah, my friend and I looked into this big time freshman year.
There's actually a LOT of variants on the original tale. Some of them are very, very strange. My personal favorite is the one where she had to chop the Beast's head off so a key would come out and she could free herself.
This site has a great variety of the original "Beauty and the Beast" folk tales. |
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| AladdinsGenie |
| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I think once she left, she had three days to return or he'd die. Don't quote me on that, though. |
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| APK |
| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I know they were different, but how exactly was the original Beauty and the Beast Stories different from the Disney version? I remember that Belle originally had sisters and that she had no name. Also, there were no talking furniture. But otherwise, how was it different? |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Nez wrote: |
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| Hourglass wrote: |
| I never did feel bad for Belle after how Beast reacted to her for her disobedience. She deserved it... how stupid can you get. If the big hairy man says not to go anywhere... you don't go... it's a simple fact of life. |
I always was a little annoyed at Belle for being so rude and going to the West Wing where she was not invited, especially since Cogsworth and Lumiere were risking their asses to tour her around. I mean, the giant scary monster is doing you a favor by not killing you! Just do what he says! But I suppose Belle didn't feel like she owed him any politeness, after he locked up her sick old father and threw him out in the cold and kept her prisoner and so rudely commanded her to befriend him or starve.
Jasmine would've done the same thing. ::plucking the rose:: "Psshh! Teach you to yell at me." |
I really do see Jasmine doing that. |
I don't know.
Remember "Garden of Evil"? |
The guy from the " Garden of Evil" wasn't mean to Jasmine, kidnapped her and her treated her with respect. and he showed how much his children mean to him. Jasmine respected that. But if Jasmine were be imprisoned by Beast and not tell her why the rose is so important. Then he yelled at her for almost touching the rose. Seeing how Jasmine is. ummmm.... I have a feeling what's going to happen next. She'll fight. |
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| Nez |
| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Mariposa79 wrote: |
| ArabianPrincessKim wrote: |
| Hourglass wrote: |
| I never did feel bad for Belle after how Beast reacted to her for her disobedience. She deserved it... how stupid can you get. If the big hairy man says not to go anywhere... you don't go... it's a simple fact of life. |
I always was a little annoyed at Belle for being so rude and going to the West Wing where she was not invited, especially since Cogsworth and Lumiere were risking their asses to tour her around. I mean, the giant scary monster is doing you a favor by not killing you! Just do what he says! But I suppose Belle didn't feel like she owed him any politeness, after he locked up her sick old father and threw him out in the cold and kept her prisoner and so rudely commanded her to befriend him or starve.
Jasmine would've done the same thing. ::plucking the rose:: "Psshh! Teach you to yell at me." |
I really do see Jasmine doing that. |
I don't know.
Remember "Garden of Evil"? |
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| Mariposa79 |
| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| ArabianPrincessKim wrote: |
| Hourglass wrote: |
| I never did feel bad for Belle after how Beast reacted to her for her disobedience. She deserved it... how stupid can you get. If the big hairy man says not to go anywhere... you don't go... it's a simple fact of life. |
I always was a little annoyed at Belle for being so rude and going to the West Wing where she was not invited, especially since Cogsworth and Lumiere were risking their asses to tour her around. I mean, the giant scary monster is doing you a favor by not killing you! Just do what he says! But I suppose Belle didn't feel like she owed him any politeness, after he locked up her sick old father and threw him out in the cold and kept her prisoner and so rudely commanded her to befriend him or starve.
Jasmine would've done the same thing. ::plucking the rose:: "Psshh! Teach you to yell at me." |
I really do see Jasmine doing that. |
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| APK |
| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Hourglass wrote: |
| I never did feel bad for Belle after how Beast reacted to her for her disobedience. She deserved it... how stupid can you get. If the big hairy man says not to go anywhere... you don't go... it's a simple fact of life. |
I always was a little annoyed at Belle for being so rude and going to the West Wing where she was not invited, especially since Cogsworth and Lumiere were risking their asses to tour her around. I mean, the giant scary monster is doing you a favor by not killing you! Just do what he says! But I suppose Belle didn't feel like she owed him any politeness, after he locked up her sick old father and threw him out in the cold and kept her prisoner and so rudely commanded her to befriend him or starve.
Jasmine would've done the same thing. ::plucking the rose:: "Psshh! Teach you to yell at me." |
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| Mariposa79 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah! What Hourglass said. So it's settled ? |
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| Hourglass |
| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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If you remember, Beast did NOT want anyone in his castle AT ALL! Why? Because he was mortified about what had happened to him. He went from a dashing prince of a wonderful castle to 'the thing in the forest'. He was embarassed about his selfish ways... and drew away because he did not want anyone to know about it.
...That would explain why he did not want Belle anywhere near the rose. Or the painting. It seemed like that whole room was just full of memories of who he used to be. The painting with a huge slash through it was just a HUGE piece of evidence of how he feels about his old life. He doesn't want to go about proclaiming it to other people, now does he?
Also, yes, I'm sure he was a little worried about her being so close to the rose. I mean, IT HELD HIS LIFE!!! I'd be a little worried about anyone going near it also.
I never did feel bad for Belle after how Beast reacted to her for her disobedience. She deserved it... how stupid can you get. If the big hairy man says not to go anywhere... you don't go... it's a simple fact of life. |
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| Mariposa79 |
| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought that if Belle knew about the spell then she'll feel like she's forced into it or feel sympathy for him. Since the rose is withering then it would be too much pressure for her or it's late to find someone else. |
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| APK |
| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe he just didn't want her going in that dusty room. It's just a turn off for woman and he hadn't cleaned there in ages!
Or maybe it was all of those old Portraits and things he kept up there. Incriminating stuff  Like yearbook photos, letters from old girlfriends, the beasts' diary, and video tapes of disco night in the castle. |
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