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| I feel like Rasoul staging a coup would end in "omg I have no idea how to be a Sultan and nobody here has an IQ above 29." | |
| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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"Is it lunch yet? I'm hungry" Poor Rasoul  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| And Hakim would just be standing behind Rasoul, saying stuff like "this isn't going to work."
With Aladdin on the throne or whatever going "... seriously, guys? " |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| He'd be by himself cause Fasal would forget to make it and Nahbi slept through the schedule time |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Somehow if Rasoul tried to stage a coup I can imagine the only reaction being mild irritation, given the level of guards the city has. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| He'd be under her command, but it's not like military leaders haven't overthrown the government regardless of their ties to the leader before. He wouldn't be doing so out of malice or greed, but I'm 100% sure if Aladdin was screwing up Rasoul would stage a coup |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| That's true. I mean realistically there's no way that would fly, and I would expect her to get a lot of backlash if she went that route, even with alliances she might have made with other kingdoms.
How big would Rasoul/the military's role be normally anyway? I know Rasoul was loyal to their family 100% even though he and Al didn't get along to say the least XD, but that's one ally she'd have--though how much he could actually do, I'm not really sure. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:02 am Post subject: |
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That's easier said than done. The Aladdin-verse is pretty modern and Americanized in its thinking. I can buy Sultan just kind of throwing out rules as a man, but Jasmine saying screw it requires more ignoring of things like sexism, for example, that she would be living in. These guys aren't going to easily allow a woman to do whatever she pleases, especially on this subject, because it would be giving other women in royal families ideas to want the same, start protesting against the laws, start rebellions, etc. This means power is taken away from the men, they lose prestige and influence, this could effect agreements with other countries who don't like their policies, this could trickle down to the people if they get a certain product from them, etc. It's a domino effect, one I'm sure she wouldn't care she started, but that's her being far more feminist than possible at the time
Sultan would have to have advisors, but after Jafar it seems like he just kind of listened to Rasoul and people he trusted that had been in the palace/working with the family for a while. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Plus couldn't she change the law(s) a la Sultan the first movie so no one would be in this position again? Like decreeing that regardless of whether the Sultan's child is a boy or girl, they're in line for the throne, no marriage required? I agree that Jasmine herself wouldn't care, it's just rival kingdoms they'd have issues with. Does Agrabah have like nobles/advisors in court or is that more traditionally European monarchy? Because if they did I could see her having to deal with their crap too. I'm actually super curious about how Agrabah's government would have worked, because the whole Grand Vizier thing makes me think of the Ottoman Empire, but I don't really know? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I always felt that Jasmine was always a bit disenchanted with the pomp and circumstance of royalty and the expectations that she must continue the bloodline blah blah blah, and I feel like her subjects love her enough and trust her to make decisions that befit Agrabah's well-being.
It's the other Seven Desert lands that would target Agrabah for having a young unmarried woman as their ruler. In which case, she would likely make some kind of politlcal/military ally/agreement with lands she knows she can trust (like Odiferous, maybe Getzistan). In my mind, Jasmine would focus her energy on making the city a better place in honor of Aladdin's memory. Like building and funding orphanages and schools and helping the economy. And less time finding someone to procreate with. As far as remarrying goes, I picture her just being like "Been there, F that noise" and adopting an orphan and raising him by her side to be a worthy heir. Or if not adopting, having a next-of-kin child as her ward with the intention of raising him up to rule. --- Cute the MosenrathxJasmine fanfiction |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if there are more advisers and people running around off-screen, as it were. Theoretically the Sultan would still have advisers and whatnot, unless he just said "to hell with it" after the Jafar mess. There's really a lot of interesting dynamics to explore there, as Aladdin deals with having staff and stuff. (So many fanfic ideas. )
Pretty much. He already (accidentally) rage-killed Arbitus for just kidnapping her, if someone kills her... ohhhh man. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, like the weird thing about Agrabah is that there doesn't seem to be a replacement/second in line for anything, which is pretty reckless, and I don't think Rasoul takes her place as the Captain of the Guards so that the military is running the country either. She'd rule as Queen, but the pressure to find someone to rule and get an heir would be even greater than before because she'd have an even bigger target on her back. | |
| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I was thinking sickness actually ( probably again because of the Evita ), and he would search the Seven Deserts for this cure, but if it was long and drawn out there could be this moment where Jasmine tries to make him promise not to do anything crazy to try to bring her back ( and obviously he doesn't listen and that's where our story begins ). But there'd be the opportunity for a feels-inducing angsty final conversation in that case.
Magic could be exciting too, and with magic involved considering how many times everyone's almost died, they could totally bring her back. But the murder thing could be so intense because dark!Aladdin starting a war over Jasmine's death. The only reason I'd want a third sequel ( and I say this tentatively because I don't think Disney could handle it nowadays ) is so that there are more Cassim/Aladdin moments. He might have gotten his closure but I didn't
How do you think this would go down if it was completely the other way around and Aladdin was the one who died and not Jasmine? I'm assuming she would be back to square one ( if there's no heir )--but would she rule until they got another Sultan? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:45 am Post subject: |
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If it's sickness or magic, I can see him looking for a cure or a way to reverse it, but if it starts to effect the city then someone will eventually step in and tell him this has to end because this isn't what Jasmine would have wanted. If someone murdered Jasmine, especially out of malice or political reasons, everyone is screwed . He will not rest until that person is dead. I don't even think there's gonna be a "no, killing you won't bring Jasmine back" moment, or him having a change of heart. He's gonna straight up murder them and sleep well that night. "But Aladdin, this is going to cause a war!" "whatevs" |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Aladdin has them, too, but it's usually for situations outside of himself. It's really easy to make a decision about something you're not really attached to . But for the most part I think Jasmine is the only one who can make the tough decisions when it's an absolute must because it's what's best for Agrabah regardless of how she feels about it. Aladdin is gonna take a little longer to get there after he's exhausted all his options because he has to remember they aren't a regular couple. They have bigger responsibilities besides to each other. She wouldn't have married him if she didn't think he could do it.
I think Genie is still pre-programmed to his former "don't get involved, don't meddle unless they make a wish" mindset, so "let's look at our options now that everything is hopeless" tends to be his M.O.
Oh God, Cassim trying to comfort Aladdin's lost. Y'all are hitting me with the feels in this thread |
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