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Sekaino Jasmine
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Interesting Mary Sue Litmus Test... Reply with quote

I found a Mary Sue litmus test for original Aladdin characters on the internet...not exactly sure if it's accurate, but it is very interesting. My character only got 12 points! Very Happy What do you guys think of it?





“Aladdin” Mary Sue/Gary Stu Litmus Test

Scoring: For every question you can answer a "Yes" to, add the points listed in brackets (i.e. [3] ) to your total score. Remember to be honest, you aren't helping yourself or scoring honestly if you can reason yourself out of answering a question yes. "Yes...But..."'s count.


Section 1 - The Name Game

Is the character named after you? (This can be your first name, middle name, or your internet/message board alias.) [5]

Does any part of the name translate into anything to do with star, spirit, light, darkness, or a something to that effect? [5]

Does the character have a really cool name that you wish you had? [1]

Have you considered naming your pet or child the character's name, or have done so already? [1]
Have you actually done so? [1]

Section 2 - Physical Appearance

Do they have 'special' (or even just plainly colored) eyes that you describe in horribly explicit detail? (i.e. using more than 3 words, and very poetic ones, to describe the eyes besides the actual word for the color) [2]
Will this be a plot point later? [1]

Is the character exquisitely attractive? [4]
Is her/his hair is mentioned repeatedly (down to her waist, flowing waves, blah blah) [2]

In his/her intro, is it mentioned in more than one paragraph? [1]

Does one or more of the original characters find the character highly attractive? [2]
Add one point for every character that has done so. [1+]
Do other regulars see him/her as a threat because of this? [1]

Section 3 - Personal Traits / Personality/ The Person

Is he/she more kind-hearted than Aladdin? [3]

Is he/she more independent than Jasmine? [2]

Does he/she have more magical powers than Genie, Mozenrath, Sadira, etc.? [1]

Is he/she more mischievous than Abu? [1]

Is he/she more sarcastic than Iago? [1]

Is he/she more optimistic than the sultan? [1]

Does the character just "know things" for no apparent reason? [2]

Is he/she universally liked and/or respected by everyone she meets? [1]

Does he/she excel at everything she tries? [1]
But when he/she fails, is he/she forgiven anyways? [1]

Is the character the long-lost child, descendent or sibling of a canon character? [10]
Does he/she realise this relation on her own? [2]
With no prior evidence? [1]

Does the character have a very good singing voice? [3]
Or play a musical instrument amazingly well? [2]

Is the character blind, deaf, or mute? [5]
Is this a plot point? [1]
Does he or she have amazing abilities despite this that normal people with the same ability wouldn't be able to? [4]

Does he/she move in with one of the original characters? [2]

Does the character start out good but becomes a villain? [1]
Extra point if he/she then returns to the side of good. [1]

Can the character heal with a touch and/or thought? [2]

Does the character have telekinesis or telepathy? Or Both? [2]

Section 4 – His/Her Past

Add points for each aspect seen somewhere during your character's life:

- abandoned by caregivers [2]
- raised by people not his/her birthparents when growing up [1]
- born or raised in extreme poverty [1]
- sole survivor of a calamity [3]
- physical abuse [2]
- by a caregiver? [1]

Does the character suffer from guilt about something terrible that he/she did in the past? [2]
Do the other characters eventually convince him/her that it was not his/her fault? [1]

Does he/she have insane wealth but no family or explanation into this? [1]

Is the character royalty? [3]

Section 5 – In Battle

Does he/she possess more than one Weapon? [3]
Add a point for each weapon posessed. [1+]

Is he/she able to use more than one element of magic? [3]
Add a point each element beyond two. [1+]
Is he/she an expert at both/all? [3]

Does he/she “mysteriously” show up saving one or more of the original characters? [3]
Does he/she actually succeed? [2]

Section 6 - The Love Boat


Does the character fall in love with any canon character? [2]
Because you are in love with this character? [1]

Does the character's presence (eventually) make Jasmine and Aladdin (or any other pair of canon characters) realize they weren't meant for each other? [2]
Does the story end with the character's wedding? [1]

Is the love of his/her life look like one of the original with some alterations? [5]

Is your character in love with/ stealing/ being related to/ being great friends with Aladdin, Jasmine, or any other canon character? [1]
Do any one of them fall in love with your character? [2]
Extra points if more than one does (one point for each) [1+]


Section 7 - You, Your character, and Everyone Else

Does the character have Hair or Eye colors that you want to have? [1]

Does the character generally have a strong resemblance to you (but maybe better-looking)? [2]

Would you like to be friends with the character if you met in real life? [1]
Do you think others should? [2]

Do you think everyone who reads the story should automatically like the character? [1]

If someone tells you he/she doesn't like your character, do you take it as a personal attack on you? [3]

Do you ever pretend, just to yourself, that you are the character, with the same strengths and abilities? [1]

Section 8 - Plot, Plot, Plot... Or something like it.

Do you tell the story from the character's point of view, all or mostly? [2]

Does the character manage to develop a friendship with an otherwise villainous character, and through this friendship, reform the other character? [3]

Does the character save the day and/or another character's life? [6]
Through dying? [10]
Through almost dying? [9]
Through magical/mystical intervention? [3]
Does everyone go into mourning? [7]
Does he/she revive by the end of the story? [5]
Does he/she revive in a sequel? [5]

Section 9 - Everything Else/ Misc.

Do you introduce the character on the first page of the story? [2]
The first paragraph? [4]
In the first sentence? [3]

Does the character tell off and/or kill a regular or recurring characters whom you don't like? [2]
While hypnotised by an enemy? [1]

Do you plan to write any more stories concerning this character? [2]
This character's child(ren)? [1]

0 - 15: Be proud. You have a developed character, unlikely that it is MarySue/Gary Stu. Which means few, if none will gouge their eyes with sporks upon seeing your character(s).
15 - 25 : Characters in this range are potential Mary Sues/Gary Stus, who can go either way dependent on the author's skill
26 - 64 : You’ve got a Mary Sue/Gary Stu on your hands. Be careful…
65+ : AH! IT HURTS! IT HURTS!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, I hate this one "Does the character just "know things" for no apparent reason? "

And Lord knows I hate this one "Is the character the long-lost child, descendent or sibling of a canon character?"
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been thinking about a story (which I know I'll probably never write because I do get a MS vibe from it), so I figured that I'd run my character though. This woman's been bouncing about in my fanfiction development for years, so I'm a bit...nervous on how this will turn out.

*Does test*

...31? Gah! Oh, and do you think that whole "long-lost" thing multiplies per character? Cause if it does, I'm at 61... *Barfs*
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm... I started a story several months back, but abandoned it cause it felt cliched. According to this, though, she only scored a 10. Yay for evil OC villains who are just plain nasty!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where'd you find that one? I started one years ago but never finished the scoring, introduction, etc...

http://aladdincentral.org/mstest.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Ran character through Heather's test and got a 21*

...Is that a good thing?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I had the scoring worked out, but I only posted it at the Pub. Rolling Eyes Must go look...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

43. Not bad, I expected the "Uber-Sue" (called "AH! IT HURTS! IT HURTS!" on this test). I like writing about magical characters, so they automatically get mega-points, and I don't like pointless characters who just randomly wander in, so if they're not related to a canon character, then they're at least familiar with the canon characters (more points).

And I had a friend who told me I seem to be incapable of writing/drawing ugly people. Laughing More points.

I discovered while doing various Mary Sue litmus tests, however, that if your charcter is ugly, stupid, disliked by everyone, has no relationship or connection to anyone and is a mass-murderer or otherwise unlikeable person, then you have a "developed character" on your hands. (Which is hilarious, considering I just built the cookie-cutter model for one. Rolling Eyes )

Laughing And I just got 44 on Calluna's. Bad Macbeth! Bad write Mary Sues! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

15 cool!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

14... ALRIGHT!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er... 21.

But she's supposed to be Jasmine's mother... who dies, and is pretty because I don't think Jasmine looks like her father...

And Jafar likes her in my fic.

Dang.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Broadwaypoetess.. fanfic"]But she's supposed to be Jasmine's mother... who dies, and is pretty because I don't think Jasmine looks like her father...quote]

She doesn't Laughing There's a picture of her mother floating around here somewhere....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Nadia got a 9. *jumps up and down for joy*
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nadia's very original. Smile I'll have to test Sirena.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy I'm so happy - I think that means we're doing a good job.
The test results wrote:
. . .few, if none will gouge their eyes with sporks upon seeing your character(s).
Laughing People would gouge their eyes out if they saw my attempts at drawing her. Laughing
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