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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: boy dies on disney ride Reply with quote

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/boy-dies-after-disney-roller-coaster/20060629161709990020?ncid=NWS00010000000001
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gosh, there has been a lot of deaths in the past year!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, I was shocked to read that. These things happen, but I don't expect them to happen at one of the happiest places on earth. Sad

And now I'm scared because I so badly wanted to go on the rides they mentioned. I avoid thrill rides at all costs, but I wouldn't be afraid to ride one at disneyworld. (their rides look a lot safer than those carnival rides that are set up in less than 24 hours) I thought it would be okay to go on a thrill ride because I'm young, but that boy was 12!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But you know, in all fairness, it's not really Disney's fault. I mean really, the two people who died on Mission Space: one was *4* years old and another was *49*. I'm not saying age is a huge factor, but why would you let your 4 year old on a ride like that? Or be 49 and get on a ride that plays around with centrifugal force? Reguardless of the "all ages" sign, there's just some things you don't get on. Not to mention there's signs saying if you have any problems not to get on, which I think both those people had. DO NOT IGNORE THOSE, even if you think you can handle it.

It's a rare occurance, but the media plays it up like people die at Disney all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. People say stuff like the reason Disney provides a speedy ambulance at their parks is because if they rush them out of the park before they die, "technically" Disney can say they didn't die inside the park.

I don't know if that's true, but speedy ambulances are supposed to be a good thing! If they didn't provide that kind of service, people would just die faster. I've been to parks where they'd only give you a band-aid and continue watching soap operas.

I haven't seen any ambulances at WDW but that's hardly the point. Even if they didn't die inside the park, they died because of a ride inside the park. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......wtf? You want the ambulance to be SLOW? Yeah, remember that next time you need a speedy ambulance but don't have it Razz

I've seen some medics there when a girl passed out, but never an ambulance.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH great ..my dad was right..this is the thing my dad is using against me of not going to DL this summer Crying or Very sad .He said today a boy died in DL so he might not want to take us, but that boy was young! 12 years old! look waht happens when I really am lookinf forward to go somewhere!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DesertBloom92 wrote:
OH great ..my dad was right..this is the thing my dad is using against me of not going to DL this summer Crying or Very sad .He said today a boy died in DL so he might not want to take us, but that boy was young! 12 years old! look waht happens when I really am lookinf forward to go somewhere!


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I know. My mom is gonna use this against me too. Crying or Very sad

Just tell your dad that they closed down the ride and all the other rides are safe!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't give in to what your dads trying to tell you, half the times these people get killed is because they're horsing around and/or don't listen to the flippin warning signs or theres just a problem with the ride that wasn't caught. I go there all the time and Yes, rides go 101 but these rides are *designed* to stop if it detects a problem. 'Screamin did that just a few months ago and did a safty stop just to be sure. The media ate it up they sometimes will just juice it up so the problem looks bigger than it really is. Rolling Eyes I've yet to see where theres been a real serious problem aside from the freak accident with Big Thunder which derailed in when it entered the cave. Since then however it's quite safer and I've been on it a bunch of times. Don't worry about it however.

P.S last time I checked disneyland didn't have Rockin' Rollercoaster Wink

eta: Whenever people are even horsing around on the rides they will litterally shut down the whole ride and restart it. We had that happen on Big Thunder a few years ago because some asshats thought it would be cool to stand up on the ride as it was going up the lift hill Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Joe wrote:
Don't give in to what your dads trying to tell you, half the times these people get killed is because they're horsing around and/or don't listen to the flippin warning signs or theres just a problem with the ride that wasn't caught. I go there all the time and Yes, rides go 101 but these rides are *designed* to stop if it detects a problem. 'Screamin did that just a few months ago and did a safty stop just to be sure. The media ate it up they sometimes will just juice it up so the problem looks bigger than it really is. Rolling Eyes I've yet to see where theres been a real serious problem aside from the freak accident with Big Thunder which derailed in when it entered the cave. Since then however it's quite safer and I've been on it a bunch of times. Don't worry about it however.

P.S last time I checked disneyland didn't have Rockin' Rollercoaster Wink

eta: Whenever people are even horsing around on the rides they will litterally shut down the whole ride and restart it. We had that happen on Big Thunder a few years ago because some asshats thought it would be cool to stand up on the ride as it was going up the lift hill Rolling Eyes


yeah! thanks 4 telling me that . and I didnt mean that TRR is not in DL but in DW.didnt know?? Embarassed . I m not like that jerk that stands up in the rides but that was pretty funny Laughing . I say disney wasnt the blame .its the parents or ppl. .or the boys body just couldnt handle it sadly. My dad told me it happened in DL, see I get wrong info ..or he was trying to fool me? Confused Laughing . M ywhole family is telling me we shouldnt go to DL cause of that kid in DW?? they dont make any sense??


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming from someone who is there more than twice every month (most of the times Razz) I can vouch with almost complete certainty that while rides will always be dangerous no matter what you do, Disney does take care in the rides and is very safe. I've never seen a problem there aside from the occasional escort out of the park because the idiot thought they could goof off on the rides or the occasional pathetic attempt to steal Razz Like i said before the rides there are designed to e-stop if it detects any sort of problem. Honestly I wouldn't worry to much about it...then again this is coming from the same person who said they would be back on Screamin' and Big Thrunder in a heartbeat if they re-opened it the next day after they crashed Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I heard about that. I feel bad for the boy and his parents Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandmother is scared to death of those rides. She gets more scared when we go on them than we do. Now she'll never let the kids go on them this year at the fair.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

persian85033 wrote:
My grandmother is scared to death of those rides. She gets more scared when we go on them than we do. Now she'll never let the kids go on them this year at the fair.


we have about the same grandmother..mine thinks shes wise ..so listen to her ..but if I did I would of never had a lot of fun ANYWHERE!..she starts to tell some random story she makes up and says a boy or girl my age died from a ride similar to one Im ganna go on and whats funny shes uses that against me for YEARS!!!.Now with that kid I dont know what shes ganna say Laughing .

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But Im still ganna go to that fair and hopefully my dad will take me to DL*crosses fingers*
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another sad story from what's supposed to be such a happy place...

The autopsy revealed that the boy had an undetected congenital heart defect.

I think these stories are extra sad because yes, there are warning signs advising people with certain health conditions not to ride, but how do you react when a person doesn't know they have a condition and tragedy results?

I feel safe on Disney attractions; I've ridden Mission: Space and Rock'n'Roller Coaster many many times and will continue to do so. I do not think that the recent tragedies at these attractions are the result of negligence on Disney's part, but I doubt that's very comforting to the family of a victim who appears healthy and rides something that's operating normally.

I hate the criticism that "Oh, Disney gets injured people out of the park ASAP so they can't say that the death occurred AT the park." Well, if someone's unconscious, isn't calling the ambulance and getting the paramedics on the scene ASAP so that the person can be taken to the hospital the proper course of action? I won't say that Disney doesn't think that someone being pronounced dead on their property would look bad, but I believe that the paramedics are called first and foremost to get the proper attention to the Guest right away. If they are trying to care for a victim as best they can until the paramedics arrive, and then turn the case over to the paramedics, I don't see how they are at fault. Granted, I do not know the entire story in any of these cases (I worked at Epcot last year when the boy died on Mission: Space, but I was not a ride operator there), so I can't say for certain who is right and who is wrong and if a situation was handled in the best possible way. There's no denying that even if there is no one to blame, a story like this is very, very sad.
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