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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It all depends on when Sa'luk left Agrabah. Was it immediately after he told Rasoul that Cassim = the KoT? After Cassim was arrested? After he escaped?


Well, it is daylight outside when Sa'luk enters the lair pre-IoO, so that dates his return before Cassim is freed from prison.

I don't see option 1 as too farfetched, at least in the way I view their relationship. Especially if Rasoul wanted Sa'luk to identify Cassim incase furthur proof was needed or whatever. I see Sa'luk as a bit ashamed (but not guilty) that he betrayed the group, and wouldn't want to face Cassim for it. There's also the fact that Sa'luk didn't go back to finish the challenge, instead walking away, which might just be seen as cowardly. So he goes back to the lair instead, and incase Cassim would manage to escape (a feasable possibility), the group would be ready to take him down.

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Was Sa'luk planning to try to get the Oracle and ultimately the Hand of Midas all along? Or did he just seize the opportunity once Cassim showed up at the hideout with the Oracle in tow?


Oh, the time I've spent considering this one. Laughing I settled on it being opportunity and the chance to prove himself to the group, Cassim, and probably himself. I get the feeling, though, that Cassim had to do some convincing to get him to go. Sa'luk doesn't appear to be fond of magic, so I doubt he'd just get in a boat and trust his fate to the Oracle without some persuasion/reason to believe her.

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In short, was Sa'luk surprised to find some of the thieves still at the hideout when he got there?


I don't think so. I think he realized there were some missing, but that could have been to death. There might have been some way of hiding some of the group incase the lair was raided, so they could rebuild. Or perhaps he thought that if the group was all dead, he could just do it himself anyway. So, he formulated the plan incase it was needed. I think. Laughing

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How the heck did Aladdin and Cassim not find out that most of the Forty Theives had been captured?


This one has bugged me too. Laughing Aladdin was busy preparing for the wedding, and Sultan didn't seem to be too concerned with the whole thing at the moment, so maybe that was the general status of the palace in general? Then again, you'd think they'd rush to tell Cassim that his 'captors' had been taken in. Cassim and Iago probably went MIA, so they would be out of the knowledge loop...

Well, maybe Aladdin could have known? Or, at least, found out right before Cassim is brought in by Rasoul. Plays into his worry-- Rasoul knows who the 40 Thieves are, his dad is in the palace, and he can't leave to run off and find him without arousing suspicion. He would have no time to notify Cassim and perhaps it slipped his mind/he didn't care to tell him when he broke him out?

Though you'd think Cassim would crosspaths with the group/Rasoul would tell him about the mass capture enroute to the dungeon...

I smell a plot hole! Laughing
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