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AladdinJasmine4ever · Streetrat Joined: 13 Jun 2019 Posts: 20

Iago is very obsessed with finding treasure and attaining wealth. He lives in the palace during the animated series and never, to my knowledge, steals from Jasmine. His only theft is in collusion with Cassim in KOT. At that point, Aladdin is at peace when the guards say Iago has earned a life sentence in the dungeon for the theft of the Oracle.

Do you think it was wrong of Jasmine to never make sure that Iago's financial needs were met? Iago proved he could be a pretty loyal friend to her during the animated show. Also, it seemed that aside from Abu... Iago was the closest with Jasmine. I always wondered why she never asked why he was interested in wealth, and never offered to make sure he was taken care of financially.

zitagirl · Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject:

Realist approach: The writers simply not thought of that and rather kept using his need for wealth as a trope instead of really exploring it.

In-verse approach: Maybe she simply wanted to teach Iago wealth isn't everything, so she never really fed his need for wealth. They may be best friends, but doesn't mean best friends can't acknowledge the other's flaws and try to do something about it. Different opinions on that, can't really say if it was wrong or not from Jasmine doing this.

Plus I don1t think Disney really wanted to promote greed as a good trait to have. Very Happy

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:38 pm Post subject:

The entire reason Iago is even able to stay in Agrabah, let alone come anywhere near the palace after the events of the first movie, is because Aladdin wanted to give him a second chance. He was always on thin ice, ESPECIALLY with Sultan, but for the most part kept his greed in check despite some minor hiccups here and there.

The one in KOT was a big hiccup, though, including stealing from Abu to help someone else who was also on a "second chance" deal steal from the palace AGAIN. He KNEW a line was being crossed, but between knowing the oracle actually works and finally having someone with the skills AND the vision to acquire more wealth, he couldn't resist it this time and helped Cassim - in part - because he thought they'd get away with it. Being around someone just as greed driven as himself caused a lapse in judgment for sure, but his struggles with greed never went away and thus was always going to tempt him.

He's been through something like this before with Abu and the gauntlet in "To Cure A Thief", though, so I don't think Aladdin was "at peace" with the decision to lock Iago up in the dungeon for life so much as disappointed Iago made that choice knowing the consequences and everything he's done for him to prevent this from happening. There's no arguing for a another chance after something like that, so he had to let the law take course this time.

I think it's less financial stability Iago is after and more an overt desire for the best and finest and rarest in life. Jafar's mentions he bought Iago from a bazaar where he was humiliating himself by acting like a stereotypical parrot, so maybe his greed is just part of a drive to never go back to a simple, embarrassing, dumbed-down life but instead one he feels worthy of (which is, of course, over the top as Iago tends to be). It's in sharp contrast to Aladdin who wanted to "never have any problems at all", but in a "live comfortably instead of having to scrape by" kind of deal. Not "live a life of lavish luxury where I don't have to lift a finger" way that Iago is seeking. He's interested in wealth for wealth's sake.

Also, Jasmine can't just give everyone she personally knows money. Aladdin was entitled to it since he was marrying in to the family and it's by extension his now. But even then, he wanted to earn it as opposed to taking what he needs, and he struggled with that throughout the series. Iago didn't want to earn it or work for it. He wanted easy, free money with little required to acquire it. So no, Jasmine isn't wrong to not make sure his needs were met since that's not her problem to deal with. Iago is his own person and is more than capable to take care of himself. The problem is his methods to do so are not always legal or morally right Laughing

. Being friends and sort of growing up together in the palace doesn't mean she has to take care of him either.

Plus, Iago is a parrot. I mean, how much money does he need to live realistically? Really? Laughing

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:09 pm Post subject:

Meesh · Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:18 am Post subject:

Re: Jafar finding Iago

I have this theory where Iago literally was a regular parrot, and Jafar saw potential in him to be his secret sidekick. So he used some magic to make him intelligent.
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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 am Post subject:

I can't remember if they ever gave any sort of origin story for Iago past that bit in ROJ (and I can't recall anything in any books), but you might be on to something: