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Chaos · Hero Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 100

How do you feel that there are no good animated disney movies coming out lately. I am not against the other one but there have been very good disney movies. There are fun great music and have a great story line!

Syera · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject:

Tell Mother I feel fine.

Okay... no, really...

It's a bit sad that there haven't been any good animated musicals recently... but in all honesty, I haven't been thinking about it too much. Although now that I do think about it, after watching Hercules I feel a little nervous about letting 'em doing more music, though. (I felt that most of the music in that movie was terrible.)

...I demand to be let aboard as a songwriter... or at least songchecker. I'm fairly good with lyrics. Razz

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AmethystFae · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject:

I feel like a part of Disney has died. Seriously. That's how I feel, when I think about it.

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject:

It's depressing because I feel like there's a fake Disney going around trashing its name, and I keep waiting for the real one to come back and kick the fake one's ass Laughing

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And on a more personal note, the lack of 2-D in the industry in general saddens me. I'm kinda glad some of these CGI movies are starting to suck because NOW people can see it's not the animation, but the STORY LINES that are crappy.

Emmlei · Prince/Princess Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 184

I simply miss good Disney animated films, and I prefer 2D, hand-drawn styles for certain types of stories over CG. A bit of a purist in me, but hand-drawn films have a certain charisma that CG hasn't quite matched yet. And I simply like the styles you can have with 2D.

That, and Disney's animated films haven't been as good (discounting anything Pixar, because Pixar really is its own group). They lack some of their storytelling oomph. A lot of studios lack that, to be honest. I know people have berated the "Disney formula," but it works and there's a lot of variety you can get in that "formula." That's why so many of their older films are still enjoyable today. Pretty much what AG has said; I don't care if it's the musical format of TLM and Aladdin, or a non-musical like Rescuers Down-Under and Atlantis, or hand-drawn or CG, I just want good animated films that tell good stories with characters I care about.

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Calluna · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:07 am Post subject:

I haven't seen most of the new ones, so I can't really make a fair comment. Embarassed

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Ariellen · Scourge of the Desert Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 708

I'm open to musical, non-musical, whatever, but I really really miss music being a major aspect of the movies.

Since Mickey Mouse debuted, and probably before that but I admit to not being as knowledgable on the pre-Mickey Disney projects, music has been such a key component of storytelling and or character development in the Studios' output. Be it a series of gags of Mickey playing "Turkey in the Straw" with barnyard animals in "Steamboat Willie," music inspiring and creating stories like in the sequences of "Fantasia" or musically-driven series of shorts like the "Silly Symphonies," songs like "When You Wish Upon a Star" that establish a film's theme, or songs like "Part of Your World," "Belle," and "One Jump Ahead" (and their reprises) that establish who the characters are, what they want, and why we should care about them, music has an extremely important place in Disney canon. It really does help audiences remember more about the characters and films, too. Why else would there be so many series of Disney compilation albums created and sold through the years?

Try as Disney might to erase "Song of the South" from public memory (I mean, except for Splash Mountain and a select few 60th anniversary commemorative pieces of merchandise available at DisneyShopping.com, but hey...), "Zip a Dee Doo Dah" isn't going to go without a fight, and a group of hard-core Disney fans like a lot of the people on here remember and appreciate The Black Cauldron, The Rescuers Down Under, and Atlantis, but that doesn't seem true for the general public (be it for reasons that seem fair or unfair), and I would LOVE to research into if the lack of songs is a reason that these movies faded from the general public's memory. While most people here would be of the mindset that each movie should be judged on its own merits and not merely compared to other Disney projects (and how would comparing Atlantis to Snow White make sense anyway?), the fact is, the Disney name carries a certain set of expectations, and when something deviates from what the public 'expects,' even if that project is quality, the public doesn't always take to change quickly.

So...I admire Disney for exploring different creative ideas in their movies, but I think that it may be good for them to find a balance between tradition and innovation if that is what the audiences want. Personally, I prefer musicals, and a return to that form DONE WELL (the direct to video sequels are nearly all musicals, but the songs and stories just aren't that good) would excite me, but I would also continue to enjoy non-musical features with interesting stories and characters.

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AmethystFae · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:

Oooooh! I am a HUGE Tink fan. I'll have to check that out when it's released. Very Happy

Also, you have a point about the Disney slump. Maybe Disney's not really dead, but just sleeping. *pulls out bell* Should I ring this? Laughing

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APK · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:

Did you watch the trailer? Very Happy

It looks good. What I don't get is, why aren't they planning on releasing this in theaters? Don't they have a new rule about 2D being DTV and CG being in theaters? Maybe they think it won't do well. Or maybe they scrapped the rule.

Yes, ring the bell for the sake of our sanity! Laughing

dazzeling diamond · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject:

Another thing is, theses days they are all 3d talking animals out of their natural state and all using pop culture references, anyone noticed that THAT IS ALL ITS BEEN LATELY?????????????????????

I miss the good old animation, I really do, and I agree with someone who has alerady said this, Disney has died. Sad

but it can b reborn Very Happy

Syera · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject:

Eh, I've more noticed it's been ALL ABOUT THE POP-CULTURE REFERENCES period!
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Calluna · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:59 am Post subject:

Syera · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:46 am Post subject:

Ah, but as it's been said before, Aladdin did it first and Aladdin did it right. Wink

Everyone else copied the paradigm without bothering to figure out how and why it worked - and consequencially screwed it up.
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